lVlemphizStylez

stock GT500's aren't fast....

go take on an Evo Stage 4 GT500... (full bolt on, tuned)

FutureEcotecOwner

Umm, what is your other ride? Because GT500 Super Snakes have upwards of 700hp stock.

If you dont think mid to low 12's are fast for a stock car, than you must own some REALLY fast cars.

lVlemphizStylez

my car is faster than mid to low 12's yes...but I don't consider my car fast either. A stock C6 Z is fast...125+ mph car out the box (I've personally seen them trap up to 127 mph stock)

FutureEcotecOwner

And now you're comparing a 70k+ car to a 45k car. What kind of car do you have, and how much money have you put into it?

lVlemphizStylez

there isn't more than 3k into my car....it's a Neon

FutureEcotecOwner

So you have an SRT-4, it's a nice car that you can mod the hell out of, my younger Brother has an 05. 3k into the car for 11's is nice, but you can do that with alot of cars. Just a pulley and tune on a GT500 and you have a low 11 to high 10 second car. I dont wanna get into comparing cars, but to say a GT500 isnt fast, is absurd.

lVlemphizStylez

I just don't think it's fast...I'm entitled to that opinion.

BTW... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOQ5l...e=channel_page

now what would happen to a stock one?? or if I turned up the boost on this one??

a little over 2 cars on a pump gas neon = / It didn't really impress me

This will now blow your mind....SAME GT500 Stage 4 vs a C6 Z with just headers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl-Hg_zHhnQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-kcRxrxVcY

JsavageSS/TC

06' Chevy Colorado.......full customization........ie. ls2(stroked and blown) AWD, massive weight reduction. Dyno'd at 650whp (when it was RWD)
after it was converted in AWD it ran 10.9 in 1/4
Baddest little f*cker I have seen....ever
My buddy is still trying to get to pass some test to determine it street legalness....

FutureEcotecOwner

Again, look at the price difference between a GT500 and C6 Z, about 25-30k. And if both are on stock tires, that is a big advantage for the Z. And seriously, if the GT500 was pushing 600+rwhp, it would have won, especially since the Z wasnt pushing more than 500rwhp.

I thought you were debating on buying it or not like 2 or 3 days ago?

lVlemphizStylez

The GT500 has the dyno...it dynoed 600+. That Z is about 500+ whp but weighs a good 1000 lbs less....that race played out how it should

Look at the price difference between MY car and the GT500 lmao, since you want to use that argument with the Z

I noticed on the local forum all the Stang guys were butthurt about the race with the Z, when the Shelby posted the chart from a reputable dyno....everyone stfu

Boomer

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It was a vert so that means its a heavy ass car. Good race. glad to see racing posts are still able to be posted over here.

FutureEcotecOwner

I dont wanna use the price difference, because any car can be fast with the right amount of money. Hell I could go buy a 3k 87-93 fox body Mustang, drop in no more than 5k and run 10's with ease, so that is a 10 second car for 8k or less. I hate the money argument, but a 30k difference in 2 cars is alot, especially when for just about 3 to 4 more k you can have yourself a 10 second GT500 and beat C6 Z's with ease.

lVlemphizStylez

you mean maybe beat stock ones??? They've done 10.8 bone stock (down to the tires). Throw 3-4k into the Z...it's a losing battle for the GT500 no matter how you slice it dude...the Z is simply...a superior car

FutureEcotecOwner

How often has a damn stock C6 Z ran in the 10's, not very freaking often. I know stock for stock the Z would beat a GT500, but throw a few grand into a GT500 and you're beating the Z all the time, and still saving yourself 25k.

lVlemphizStylez

well the vid I just posted says otherwise dude...

That guy bought a Stage 4 Evo kit (about 5 K), and he's still seeing C6 Z taillights. I mean you can ignore it if you want, but that disproves your argument kind of directly

FutureEcotecOwner

One, look at the huge difference in stock tires. And again, if I wanted to spend upwards of 70k on a car, it wouldnt be the Z, you can have so many nicer, faster cars alot cheaper. Yeah for a stock car, the Z is awesome, but there is better and there is faster, cheaper.

Boomer

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Sorry but the GT500 will pull just about anything, hell my terminator cobra will pull a z car with no problem. They are quick cars, especially at mid and top end.

lVlemphizStylez

Name another 10.8 125+ mph car for 70k

FutureEcotecOwner

Please dont come in here with all this mis-information. Stock for stock, the C6 Z will hand a GT500 and a Terminator their ass with ease.

Stock, probably none. But if I had 70k to spend on a car, I could buy a used car for way less than half the price and put alittle bit of money into it and beat the C6 Z. And again with the 10.8, it doesnt happen very often, so please just state that the C6 Z is a mid to low 11 second car.

lVlemphizStylez

ok..just as long as you know there is not another BRAND NEW WARRANTIED NON **** CAN 70k 10.8 125+ mph car, that you can drive just about everyday

FutureEcotecOwner

I know that and I know the C6 Z is a badass car, but to say the GT500 sucks and is slow is what got this little discussion started. Now if you would have said the GT500 wasnt as fast as the C6 Z I would have agreed, but that isnt what was stated.

Boomer

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its not I have pulled a few c6 vettes rollin around here. And yes my 03 cobra cant hold with them over 160 but until that point, my cobra will pull them hard.

lVlemphizStylez

yea...sure it will, post a vid

FutureEcotecOwner

One, there is a huge difference in a C6 and C6 Z06. And secondly, you better have alot of mods done to your Terminator to even pull a C6 hard.

Boomer

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list of mods done to this point:

Twin Garrett 57 MM T3/T4 hybrid Turbos
Jig made Tig Welded 4 into 1 custom 1 ¾” long tube headers
2 -Tial Billet Waste Gates
Tial Billet Blow off valves
AJE Tubular K Member
AJE Tubular A Arms
QA1 Coil Over Front Suspension Kit
UPR Caster Camber Plates
Lightning Mass Air Meter
Power Steering Reservoir relo kit with brackets and hoses
V Band flanges and clamps to assure tight seals
Quality Black Silicone connectors
Large Custom Bar and Plate Low Restriction Intercooler
CNC Mandrel bent cross over and connector pipes
Jet Hot Ceramic Coating, inside and out, on all headers and pipes
X Pipe (with Hi Temp Paint)
Factory size fittings so you can reuse your factory O2 sensors
Diablo Mafia tuner
UPR short throw shifter
UPR Bump Steer Kit
Custom Aluminum Overflow Tank
Custom Intake Water Cross Over Tube
Twin 9” large cone air filters that support up to 1500 RWHP
Braided stainless oil supply lines for turbos
Polished Turbo Compressor Housings
Polished Turbo Exhaust Housings ( STD. Jet Hot Coated) Sullivan billet Fuel Rails
83lb injectors
Upgraded Intercooler = 30% larger
Battery Relo Kit to trunk
Sullivan Intake, Elbow, spacer
Aftermarket sumped fuel tank
Built VIPER Six Speed tranny
Lakewood Driveshaft Safety Loop
Bassani Mufflers and X pipe
Spec 3 clutch and pressure plate
UPR upper and lower rear control arms
Solid rear axel conversion
Spherical bushings
MAC rearend girdle
Lakewood drag shocks
Drag air bag


Is that enough for you.