shadowfaxss

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I think you'll take him!!!! It will come down to who the better driver is.

Codyak Supercharged

also factor in air temp and elevation i do believe turbos are more effecient at high altitudes

martinsmu

We live right besides the ocean, so sea level for sur, maybe like altitude of 25 feet :-p I never knew though about turbo working better than supercharge on higher altitude... Elaborate on that!!

Stilgar

Civic FTW!

D4u2s0t

what about it? you're trying to say that gearing is giong to make up for 10-15whp if a cobalt is stock, and at LEAST 60wtq?

again, paper racing is gay, and who knows, anything can happen... i beat a mkIII supra in my 2.2, so i'm not saying it can't happen... only time will tell

SSCobalt~SSZ24

i say with ur mods u will win for sure but who knows

Psykostevo

You can beat him, he will have 251hp, and still about 150tq.

You need to upgrade to a 2.8" pulley, and then get a good retune. That will give you about another 20+hp from the stock stg2pulley, and regap those plugs to 30, not 40

c0ld29

I believe I remember reading that the kit brings the civic to 220-230 HP but torque was still low

shake&bake

That is what I am saying.

Psykostevo

This kit comes with new fuel injectors and an eManage system, so not stock fuel components. on this or the Scion Tc Kits.

martinsmu

It give it 45whp + stock 180 so 225 lets call it 235 for argument sake. Prob like 175 tq at the most

beamSS

Turbo Ftw!

Asphalt Assault

Stock for stock the I raced a 06 SI. at a track. beat him every time even when I didnt have a great run. we ran 3 or 4 times.

Now his car modded gives 25% more power and lets say it does. the SS gets GMS2. that is also approx giving 20% then add a smaller pulley. in the end should be able to beat him as bad as a stock for stock race.

You will beat him. final answer. till he figures a way to go to like 12 PSI and then we cant touch him till we get faster..... to infinity and beyond.

unclesid

or until you run into an 06 SI w/ this kit...http://www.ajperformance.com/product...ucts_id=137789

06TypeS

u will lose that car runs around 13.7 ish mabye lower with that kit... those turbos give them cars alot of low end power

yellowcobaltss05

id say slap a 2.8" pulley on their with your stage 2 or even better get a 2.5-2.6" pulley w/ 60lbers and a custom tune then you wont have to worry about it

mattyfinch

martin, i told you to gap you plugs down haha, and to get the smaller pulley and hptuners with me! now you have a real reason too, although, id love to run your friend now . I cant wait till spring to unleash my beast again

have him come out to the cobalt meet in april or something,we can do a bunch of pulls on the highway.

N/ADC5

It could be close. Have you run the 1/4 yet in your SS?
The kit will add good power, but because of the mediocre turbo size, and high compression, the torque will build quickly like your eaton set-up. Gearing will
give him the advantage as it's set-up for no torque.(assuming traction)
Tires will factor in. Is he getting tuned, or just crap reflash?
I would expect with a novice driver this civic would be a 13 second car at sea-level.
Should be fun for sure.
Good luck.

martinsmu

I know buddy I know!! hahaha. I jsut heard horror stories about those damn HPtuners thats all. haha When is this cobalt meet you speak of? When can I see that car of yours, really want to see that!!

TCarter

Through extensive research and product testing. I have came to the conclusion that it adds 35whp to 2.0L and 75WHP to a 2.4L ECOTec engine in the Cobalt Delta Chassis.

p7x

thats a very efficent setup, damn!!! but wow thats low torque

mattyfinch

martin you can see it this spring at the cobalt meet, its in our regions message thingy, and you should bring your friend

martinsmu

My buddy with the SI, yeah he would prob be down for that!! Where is our region thing you speak of?? I never seen it!! I want more info on this sping meet!! maybe then we could get that damn 2.9 on my car!! Have u ever worked with the hptuners before? like if something would go wrong, how fast can I bring my car stock S2 flash again?

chevysalesman614

they claim 55 hp
http://www.turbo-kits.com/06-09_civic_turbo_kits.html

this place says 52 hp http://www.optionimports.com/grtukithocis.html

wouldnt this s/c be better with the vtec and high compression??
http://www.comptechusa.com/store/product1543.html

martinsmu

^^^^ I dont get the reasoning why that supercharge in this case would be better. Its 700$ more and gives at best the same amount of hp? And it stresses the engine components more because the SC takes HP away from the engine. So even with the same amount of WHP, the SC motor makes more power, jsut the SC takes it away for operation. More power = more stress on internals.