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Old 11-22-2008, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
yea, on my conservative tune that I ran a 13.2@104 on, we were dead even, after I retuned a lot more aggressively, I got pretty quick.

To tell you the truth, I may have beat him by a bit more. I was ahead, so I don't know the exact amount.
understandable. what mix of meth are you running? what kinda AFR? how much timing? stock pulley? on your DR's or street tires?
Old 11-22-2008, 10:28 PM
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just washer fluid mix, I think it's like 45/55? AFR now is 12.5:1, a few spots it gets a tad rich, like 12.2, 2.9 pulley revving to 7500rpms, and I was on stock wheels and tires from that 40 roll.

From a dig I destroy him on slicks, lol. like buses. lol.

that conservative tune was 11.5:1 all the way up.
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
just washer fluid mix, I think it's like 45/55? AFR now is 12.5:1, a few spots it gets a tad rich, like 12.2, 2.9 pulley revving to 7500rpms, and I was on stock wheels and tires from that 40 roll.

From a dig I destroy him on slicks, lol. like buses. lol.

that conservative tune was 11.5:1 all the way up.
how much power are putting down dude?
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haven't been back to the dyno. car made 222whp and 201ft/lbs when i went 13.6@100, then I went 13.2@104 on a conservative tune, and now I'm on a ***** out tune. I need to go to the dyno soon.

be my guest if you wanna take a guess.

how much power does it take to increase from 100 to 104 and then add a little.

btw, all those track times are on 26x10.5 slicks, they kill the gearing in this car. On my stock wheels and tires, the gearing isn't quite as long, which makes for better acceleration.

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Do you have any upgrade on supsension or bushings? how can you avoid wheel hop and not breaking urs axles running slicks?
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Like I said, BIG ASS SLICKS. lots of wrinkle side wall. I do have DIY mounts, but they are just stock mounts filled with liquid poly. I also have drag bags in the rear, but that doesn't aid in stopping wheel hop.

I'm dropping to a 24.9"x8 slick next year for better gearing, I hope I don't trade off and get wheel hop.
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i think your currently slicks are rubbering and killing your traps speed but at the same time somehow avoid the wheel hop. try a smaller ones see what happens. Im looking to run slicks but i dont want to snap the axles lol
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Originally Posted by evilgoat
i think your currently slicks are rubbering and killing your traps speed but at the same time somehow avoid the wheel hop. try a smaller ones see what happens. Im looking to run slicks but i dont want to snap the axles lol
I think you are correct. and I find it funny that some people on this site like to call my car slow when they see that trap speed. I've been told that I would be a good race for a stock ss/tc and get smoked by a modded one.

I just ignore them and I don't even tell them that I already have raced a ss/tc, and it wasn't a pretty outcome for him. lol.
Old 11-23-2008, 10:22 AM
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GREAT job op making a racing thread that answer all the questions in one shot(mods,video, outcome) with out going in all this bs that other guys do, making thread of future races that half time u dont evn know wtf happen !!! 1++++
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Thank You For Posting A Video That Was Taken During The Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice win.

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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I'll see if I can get him to race again with video this time.

I don't know all of his mods, but I know the majority...

mopar stage 2
cai
dp
exhaust
charge piping
agp big fmic
map clamp
2 bar map sensor
stage 2 wastegate
22ish psi holding 22psi to redline
some other ****, and pardon me if some of this doesn't sound right, I'm not mopar intelligent.

Our races are 40 roll with him boost braking me just stabbing the throttle, and I win by 2-3 cars easy. My mods are in VB garage.
stock turbo does not hold 22psi to redline....


It should be noted that the neon in this vid is running like complete ass...He posted this on SRTforums and he's running the car severely lean (which makes the computer pull his timing DRASTICALLY)...I wouldn't be too proud about putting this neon down
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well, I'm going off of what he told me. Like I said, I'm not srt savvy.
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Nice win :
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srt forums input: his car needs 2 e re-tuned and its pulling fuel. so idk might not have this car for very long anyway so we will see
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looked like 120 on the SRT speedo .... Alt is fast (No doubt), but Joe (SRT4) had an extra 250 lbs on board called a passenger and I don't think he was running full boost? I say re-race minus the passenger in the SRT.... camera car needed!

Regardless, Alt's SC might just be the fastest in the Chicagoland area .... good job Chris
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
haven't been back to the dyno. car made 222whp and 201ft/lbs when i went 13.6@100, then I went 13.2@104 on a conservative tune, and now I'm on a ***** out tune. I need to go to the dyno soon.

be my guest if you wanna take a guess.

how much power does it take to increase from 100 to 104 and then add a little.

btw, all those track times are on 26x10.5 slicks, they kill the gearing in this car. On my stock wheels and tires, the gearing isn't quite as long, which makes for better acceleration.
What kind of dyno was that??? I know its just numbers and dyno's all differ. I put down 223whp on a dynojet (airbox mod only). That was exciting for me....especially the highest a stage 2 ss/sc and redline put down was 229 . Just gives me alittle to compare where my car could possibly be. Also sorry to take this thread off topic......oh...more vids of srt4's would be nice too..
Old 11-23-2008, 05:11 PM
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dyno jet, but I'm at a completely different area of the country than you.
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Originally Posted by suburbanrobot
looked like 120 on the SRT speedo .... Alt is fast (No doubt), but Joe (SRT4) had an extra 250 lbs on board called a passenger and I don't think he was running full boost? I say re-race minus the passenger in the SRT.... camera car needed!

Regardless, Alt's SC might just be the fastest in the Chicagoland area .... good job Chris
thanks man that means alot. im so tempted to get rid of it but when i compare my car its always to faster cars like s/c stangs, ls1's and ****. when i come down to earth in comparison to other cobalts it makes me really open my eyes

any1 wanna voice there opinion?
http://www.thechicagogarage.org/foru...d=1#post230404
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ditch that supercharger for a decent size turbo, or just twincharge, and start blowing s/c stangs and ls1's and **** off the road. lol.
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Originally Posted by Altiery52
srt forums input: his car needs 2 e re-tuned and its pulling fuel. so idk might not have this car for very long anyway so we will see
lol.....not that I dont believe this...but I really dont take anything off the srt forums as truth....but they could be right on this. What kind of exhaust was on it...it did sound messed up. My friend has a 3in side exit from CTI and it sounds different on the srt...not to mention obnoxiously loud. So who knows....one thing I've noticed about alot of srt owners....or anyone with a boosted car these days....people just tend to throw parts on...no supporting mods or good tunes and then proceed to beat the **** out of their cars....crazy kid these days.
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
ditch that supercharger for a decent size turbo, or just twincharge, and start blowing s/c stangs and ls1's and **** off the road. lol.
i wish it were that easy my friend. im a full time college student, granted i work full time also thats alot of $$$ to me

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lol.....not that I dont believe this...but I really dont take anything off the srt forums as truth....but they could be right on this. What kind of exhaust was on it...it did sound messed up. My friend has a 3in side exit from CTI and it sounds different on the srt...not to mention obnoxiously loud. So who knows....one thing I've noticed about alot of srt owners....or anyone with a boosted car these days....people just tend to throw parts on...no supporting mods or good tunes and then proceed to beat the **** out of their cars....crazy kid these days.
i agree man and something may be messed up. he ran a 13.1@109 i havent ran ran anything similar, however i only race at the track in the middle of summer so who knows me and joe are friedns so either way its cool

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Originally Posted by cobaltR
lol.....not that I dont believe this...but I really dont take anything off the srt forums as truth....but they could be right on this. What kind of exhaust was on it...it did sound messed up. My friend has a 3in side exit from CTI and it sounds different on the srt...not to mention obnoxiously loud. So who knows....one thing I've noticed about alot of srt owners....or anyone with a boosted car these days....people just tend to throw parts on...no supporting mods or good tunes and then proceed to beat the **** out of their cars....crazy kid these days.
running a 12.6-13.0 AFR on a turbo car is running too lean...The computer will yank his timing to save his motor because of excessive detonation
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Originally Posted by lVlemphizStylez
running a 12.6-13.0 AFR on a turbo car is running too lean...The computer will yank his timing to save his motor because of excessive detonation
really I didnt know that...j/k thanks for the lesson though.

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i wish it were that easy my friend. im a full time college student, granted i work full time also thats alot of $$$ to me



i agree man and something may be messed up. he ran a 13.1@109 i havent ran ran anything similar, however i only race at the track in the middle of summer so who knows me and joe are friedns so either way its cool
Haha..nice...alittle rivalry between friends...srt vs ss/sc. Thats cool, my best friend has a srt4 so its all good, I know what you mean.

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was he stage? or just bolt ons
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you said you didn't believe what was being said in regards to this race on SRTForums...so I just clarified for you what was being said, so you can see that it's not far-fetched (something "unbelievable")


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