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Old 07-21-2007, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aja342
Seems like everybody gets all butt hurt when a cobalt beats thier brand of car. I doubt anyone would call bullshit when I tell them how I CRUSHED R/Ts and SRT-8s with the Goat. But if I were to even suggest that I could do it with my 'balt (that is fast becoming just as quick as my Goat) people would flip.
Hey man, no argument there...anything can be modded to beat anything. My only issue is with the OPs story. I think he mistakenly took some smaller form of the 300 for an SRT8, based on the color of the car.

Also, Sneaks "facts" were complete BS. It's hard not to reply to a post that is just laced with lies.
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Just followed this link over from ChargerForums ...so since they decided to come over to this GM site I thought I'd set some things strait and help out these good GM owners. First off SRT-8s don't produce like advertised. I have rarely seen them post ETs in the 12s. Now personally here is what they have run against me. Both these timeslips are the same day same track (June 4 2007). The first is me vs a real 300C SRT-8, picture provides proof. The second slip is me against a member of ChargerForums who drive a black SRT-8 Charger. I typically see both of these type of cars running low to mid 13s. I'm car #6.






Charger boys you're owned go home.

sorry second link should be this, me vs 300c SRT

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Old 07-21-2007, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mezzanno
because they are only good from a dig. Don't you get it. V8's run out of steam once you get passed second gear. All that torque helps theme get off the line but then they just choke at high rpm's plus they are heavy ass bricks. light fwd 4 clyinder is the way to go for top end. Duh!










Choke at higher RPM'S? Not, I just handed a WRX his a$$ today.
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How exactly are they owned again? You're talking about a modified GTO, this thread is about a cobalt.

I think you're confused son.
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Originally Posted by fix8ed
How exactly are they owned again? You're talking about a GTO, this thread is about a cobalt.

I think you're confused son.
SRT-8 Charger only ran 13.6 against me. Makes me think a Cobalt SS would stand pretty good against that.
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
SRT-8 Charger only ran 13.6 against me. Makes me think a Cobalt SS would stand pretty good against that.
But the other timeslip shows a 300 running 13.2? The Charger and the 300 are exactly the same save about 100lbs. There is no difference in ETs, just drivers.

Maybe the Charger just didn't run good that run...bottom line they are PROVEN low 13 second cars. Period. If the driver cant drive, you'll see mid 13 second runs. Cobalt SS is in the 14s. That's a big difference and = serious mods to even match the performance of the STOCK 6.1L motor.

Common sense people.

Edit: and your ride is a beast...very nice work.
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And 300Cs SRT-8s are known to be a little quicker then the SRT-8 Chargers. The 300C guys suggested to me its in the gearing.

...but an SRT-8 can fall into Cobalt SS range is what I wanted to show so calling BS when one claims to take a SRT-8 down should be considered automatic. ...granted there aren't any white ones but then again there aren't any white GTO's. ...well not any that were produced.
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Originally Posted by GTO1_OHIO
And 300Cs SRT-8s are known to be a little quicker then the SRT-8 Chargers. The 300C guys suggested to me its in the gearing.

...but an SRT-8 can fall into Cobalt SS range is what I wanted to show so calling BS when one claims to take a SRT-8 down should be considered automatic. ...granted there aren't any white ones but then again there aren't any white GTO's. ...well not any that were produced.
I have to disagree with the gearing statement. The cars are exactly the same, save a more aggressive suspension on the Charger. Charger SRT8s are as fast as any 300 SRT8 stock for stock, as far as I know.

As far as it falling into cobalt range, only if th SRT driver royally screws something up or if the Cobalt is seriously modified. Bottom line. Can it happen? Sure...likely, not really.

Up-badging is also an issue with the 300s, Chargers, and Magnums. Anyone can slap an SRT8 emblem on a 300C or 6 cyl.

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Old 07-21-2007, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fix8ed
I have to disagree with the gearing statement. The cars are exactly the same, save a more aggressive suspension on the Charger. Charger SRT8s are as fast as any 300 SRT8 stock for stock, as far as I know.

As far as it falling into cobalt range, only if th SRT driver royally screws something up or if the Cobalt is seriously modified. Bottom line.

Up-badging is also an issue with the 300s, Chargers, and Magnums. Anyone can slap an SRT8 emblem on a 300C or 6 cyl.
Was going to say something about this...big prob with it in the BMW world. Look out for the M police.
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Also, if a SRT8 can fall into the range of a Cobalt SS, then that means the same goes for stock GTO's, SVT Cobra's, and C5 Corvette's right?
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Originally Posted by aja342
Was going to say something about this...big prob with it in the BMW world. Look out for the M police.
Dealers aren't helping things much either. We're starting to see R/Ts sporting SRT8 logos and V6s re-badged to Daytonas...all so the dealer can make a few extra bucks. Daimler also released something called the "SRTDESIGN" 300 that, to someone that doesn't know, looks just like an SRT8 but it sports the 5.7L Hemi.

Just things to keep in mind guys.

Originally Posted by 04Venom
Also, if a SRT8 can fall into the range of a Cobalt SS, then that means the same goes for stock GTO's, SVT Cobra's, and C5 Corvette's right?
x100 You're correct sir.

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Old 07-21-2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 04Venom
Also, if a SRT8 can fall into the range of a Cobalt SS, then that means the same goes for stock GTO's, SVT Cobra's, and C5 Corvette's right?
Scary to think about huh...imagin if GM started out with a trubo instead of the Eaton.
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What is this world coming to....... Cobalt SS's running with the big boys.....
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Originally Posted by aja342
Scary to think about huh...imagin if GM started out with a trubo instead of the Eaton.
The turbo would be good times, that's for sure
Old 07-21-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MVDCGTO
Depending on how fast your car is its not out of the question. The SRT-8's are nice and fast but not all that impressive on top end, especially the Jeep. I mean in the above video it only traps 101 in the 1/4! Not very good at all. It wouldn't break into the 13's if it were not for the fact that it goes 0-60 in like 4.5 seconds. They are a monster from a dig though. I raced one with a blower and he barely beat me on the top end and he had 160whp more than me. The 300C is the fastest SRT-8 though. Personally I dont think the op accomplished what he wrote but it seems to me that there ar a few on this site, with cobalts, who could beat one of these from a roll. Now a dig, thats a different story.
You definitely don't know what you are talking about...

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Originally Posted by Carlos Garza
You definitely don't know what you are talking about...
Ditto......
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Originally Posted by fix8ed
But the other timeslip shows a 300 running 13.2? The Charger and the 300 are exactly the same save about 100lbs. There is no difference in ETs, just drivers.

Maybe the Charger just didn't run good that run...bottom line they are PROVEN low 13 second cars. Period. If the driver cant drive, you'll see mid 13 second runs. Cobalt SS is in the 14s. That's a big difference and = serious mods to even match the performance of the STOCK 6.1L motor.

Common sense people.

Edit: and your ride is a beast...very nice work.
With a bad driver an SRT-8 will run mid 14's. Like any other car, SRT-8's need good driver to get good times.
Old 07-22-2007, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
With a bad driver an SRT-8 will run mid 14's. Like any other car, SRT-8's need good driver to get good times.
Mid 14s if he lifts off of the throttle. Usually bad drivers are closer to high 13s in straight line. All you really need to do to run 13 anything in these cars is stand on the gas, provided you're not just spinning at the line.
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Originally Posted by fix8ed
Mid 14s if he lifts off of the throttle. Usually bad drivers are closer to high 13s in straight line. All you really need to do to run 13 anything in these cars is stand on the gas, provided you're not just spinning at the line.
Hah hah, Mid 14's with traction control on, and not letting off the gas. He couldn't figure out how to get off the line.
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After racing an SRT8 tonight I've come to the conclusion that said Cobalt would have gotten beat very badly if the driver had the gas pedal on the floor. It IS however possible that the guy racing in the SRT8 spilled his coffee on his leg while attempting to race, and had to slow down while he was looking for a napkin to dry himself. This could have been confused as a win for the cobalt. Because we all know anything can happen on the street!
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Originally Posted by StinkBOMB
Hah hah, Mid 14's with traction control on, and not letting off the gas. He couldn't figure out how to get off the line.
That'll do it. The traction control in these things is a beast. If it senses foolishness it cuts fuel. Very embarrassing I'd imagine.
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Originally Posted by fix8ed
That'll do it. The traction control in these things is a beast. If it senses foolishness it cuts fuel. Very embarrassing I'd imagine.
Alot of people in the stands were having adverse reactions to a Charger getting beaten so badly. But me and the Charger guy are friends so we just lauphed it off. If he ever learns how to drive it he may be me a run for my money.

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That'll do it. The traction control in these things is a beast. If it senses foolishness it cuts fuel. Very embarrassing I'd imagine.
Alot of people in the stands were having adverse reactions to a Charger getting beaten so badly. But me and the Charger guy are friends so we just lauphed it off. If he ever learns how to drive it he may give me a run for my money.

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Old 07-23-2007, 08:00 AM
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well, guys, flaming kids, like i said earlier, it was probably a 300C because the car was definitely i white car. for the ones who says i am a liar then fuckoff, i am not going to post bullshit **** in here. and for the one who says "are you sure he was racing?" then stfu again, going around 180 kph on a 50 kph limit bridge behind me is probably racing u punched it trust me. for the str8 things, its was looking like an str8 and he had the str8 wheels. now flame more !!!!! i dont give a ****

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Were you awake when all this happened? I can't believe you had the courage of putting all this lies in writing under your name... that takes *****...

pissedoff? have a cookie.

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Originally Posted by Super_SS
White 300C SRT-8 doesnt exist..white wasnt a color for the srt8 300c..so i call bs
Great minds think alike....

the only colors they offered for the 300c srt-8 is silver, light blue,black and a dark red
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if i owned a gto, i would be upset with this thread. since a stock gto and stock srt8 are pretty much competitors, the author would like for us all to think a cobalt ss sc is somehow on the same level as these cars.

truth is, it simply isnt. now a cobalt ss sc and the charger/300/magnum high output v6 are more on your guys level. both are cheap cars that can be modded to be just above the slow mark. in the end, the car is still a commuter, def not to be confused with muscle cars.


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