FutureEcotecOwner

OMG!!! Get to work, LOL.

2006RedCobaltSS

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Again, I will let people who saw it step in. My car runs very well. And yes, people also saw the race between the SS/TC and me. I don't make claims if no one else sees it because it would be hard to argue it. If you want, I'll get the SRT4 guy to come on here and tell you what he has and the end result. He was very suprised I was that close to him. My buddy (AjSS) ran him and it was the same result. Aj is a 2.7, meth, Area tuned, ported blower and full bolt-ons and cooling mods. The guy thought he would put buses on me.

FutureEcotecOwner

Tuned SS/TC > TVS SS/SC > stock SS/TC > stock SRT-4 > stock SS/SC



Maybe the guy was lying, or maybe his car was running shitty that day, you never know. But with his said mods, he should have beat you by more.

2006RedCobaltSS

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Well I sent him the link to have him put his input on this. Like said before, his car is pretty quick that's the reason I made this thread. Knew I would lose. But j thougt I would lose

G85 SS

SRT's get traction though. The Cobalt not so much. I even mentioned that SRT-s with bigger turbos and tuned are beasts....There's a 60trim SRT-4 running around here somewhere. It's a commemorative edition. Only seen it 1 time out on Kirkman in front of Universal and oh-em-gee....

FutureEcotecOwner

Besides the 50 trim, there are quite a few nice turbo upgrades for the SRT-4. My Brother is looking to get a Delta 55 or something like that later this year or next year.

restonSS

theres no way a tuned ss/tc is better than a tvs/sc. no chance in hell

FutureEcotecOwner

LOL, I dont know much about the TVS S/C, but figured I would post that. What kind of #'s do the TVS S/C's put down? Atleast 300whp correct?

~Mike~

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are we talking tune only on the tc? Cuz depending on the tune of the TVS s/c, they're pretty close to equal in power. Guys are getting close to and over 300whp on just a tune on their tc's which is right around the same place a TVS puts you depending on pulley size

FutureEcotecOwner

Ahh so I guess I was right in my last post when I said the TVS S/C puts out about 300whp. Looks like it is pretty close in comparison to a tuned SS/TC.

~Mike~

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The TVS can net anywhere from like 300-350 whp on the lsj's. Depending upon pulley size and tune and other mods. So, like I said...depending on how the TVS balt is set up, it'd be fair between a tuned tc and the tvs

FutureEcotecOwner

Oh ok. How much does the TVS S/C cost?

~Mike~

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the TVS is like 1850 or something like that off of OTTP. I do believe they have the lowest price around right now. It's fairly cheap if you compare that to say the Hahn turbo swap kit

FutureEcotecOwner

That is pretty damn cheap for an aftermarket S/C, wish the Kenne Bell S/C for my Mustang was that cheap, LOL.

~Mike~

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Well, I'm not saying the Harrop isn't a good product, but it's not as "sought after" as the Kenne Bell is and the Kenne Bell is a much larger s/c the the Harrop. 1.3L vs 2.1 or higher lol

FutureEcotecOwner

Yeah I know what you mean. But I've been doing some research here lately and I might stay N/A with my GT for now atleast. I can get a cam setup and full exhaust and push right around 350whp N/A.

~Mike~

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Well that's what happens when you have twice the cylinders as we do lol Add the Kenne Bell and buy some diapers, you might need them lol

FutureEcotecOwner

When I was just checking out some cams, I seen this one guy was pushing 740rwhp in his 3v GT on the stock motor with bolt ons and a S/C. That sounds badass, LOL.

scottw03

I agree, stock vs stock I believe that the SS/TC > SRT-4 > SS/SC

Now modded, it is anyone's game then. It all depends on how much money you are willing to throw at the car and what kind of mods you put on it to maximize performance output.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


In what world do you live in?????

With 250 ft/lbs of torque stock and who knows after modded, traction is what owns 90% of SRT-4 owners. Just like everyone else we look for ways to gain it back though. wider stickier tires, traction control systems, EBC's with boost by gear/rpm/mph, etc....

I know with just my stock turbo car at 20 psi I put down 340 ft/lbs of torque and 287 whp with a dump exhaust, wga, intake, S2 computer, S1 injectors, pump gas, boosting 20 psi falling to 15 psi at redline.

With my modified stocker turbo I ran the times in my sig and was probably somewhere around 330 whp and over 340 wtq. Traction is definitely an issue with any high hp/high tq FWD car.

55lb compressor wheel. Bigger than a 50 trim which will do about 400 whp fairly easily and over 300 without tuning.

So what you are saying is you have to spend $1850 to make roughly the same hp as the SS/TC with just a tune which probably cost less than $500, right?

That IMO make the SS/TC > TVS SS/SC

MarcS

^You can't compare a stock car to a modified one.

scottw03

I am not the one technically comparing stock to modded. Someone else brought up the whole TVS > SS/TC. Plus a tuned SS/TC is not stock. The tune didn't come on your car when you bought it right, hence not stock

I will rephrase the statement for you: Tuned SS/TC > TVS SS/SC

Better?

spending less than $500 (probably) is > spending $1800+ for 300 whp.

poppagun

mike who was this

MarcS

Thats better

scottw03

LOL, ok man, that was what I was trying to get across, just not clearly the first time.

1bdstlLSJ

I saw the race 2006 isn't lying at all I know the srt4 owner wes and with a boost leak he made 245whp/300wtq he is making making 280whp without his mopar stage 1pcm...2006 has a freak