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Old 04-17-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by widowedeight
are you talking bout the vid? if so it is cause a dude in a 4 door si that is stock thinks that he is WAY faster than the op's car
So? Let him think it all he likes. We know better! I wouldn't have run him for less then $500 seeing he was so sure.
Old 04-17-2009, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
It's cool man. The majority of Honda owners are in fact posers or people who think they know everything. I have two friends who own Hondas, and we do them right. Not a single one of us have any flashy mods, lips, stickers, JDM BS parts, or Rota, Drag, or any other knockoff, low quality wheels. But all my other friends don't give a damn about cars. Those are the friends I hang out with most.
oh ok so theyr into sleepers?

i like a good clean fast car. the most i would do to the exterior of my crx is the jdm body, lip, and baller ass wheels and hid's. as for the interior, **** the subs, i just need goo front and rear speakers, new stereo and deftones with my mickey mouse gauge pod behind the steering wheel showing boost and air/fuel
Old 04-17-2009, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by widowedeight
hb= hatch back or hb = honda bubble?
Hatchback. I don't call it anything else than what it is haha. I don't say EG or EG6 because it's not one.

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oh ok so theyr into sleepers?
Yea pretty much. But they rarely see higher than 3.5k rpm.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
Hatchback. I don't call it anything else than what it is haha. I don't say EG or EG6 because it's not one.



Yea pretty much. But they rarely see higher than 3.5k rpm.
I never heard of this bubble **** until this thread. Sounds like you have pretty quick hatch.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
well let me be the first to say, if you are gunna say that the Si beat these cars after someone else already posted proof that both those cars beat the Si. that you better bet your ass we want proof or you're just a little honda fan boy tryin to stick up for the rice.





ohh really? funner. . .



please explain to me how that works thats like me saying my 350rwhp LT1 can beat 420-620rwhp turbo'd LS1's.

and there is only 1 way i car see that happening, my car being 150% a stripper, and said turbo guy running on street tires with atleast 5 bags of 100lb concrete in the rear hatch.

X2.
No way a well set up turbo 500 whp car get beat for any length of time by a 230 whp car of the same type what is he on crack or something? A SI Civic is a huge waste of money. They cost just as much if not more than a turbo Cobalt and as Road and track put it " If you are not in the power band (6K to 7700) teenagers borrowing mom's minivan will have their way with you".
Old 04-17-2009, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
X2.
No way a well set up turbo 500 whp car get beat for any length of time by a 230 whp car of the same type what is he on crack or something? A SI Civic is a huge waste of money. They cost just as much if not more than a turbo Cobalt and as Road and track put it " If you are not in the power band (6K to 7700) teenagers borrowing mom's minivan will have their way with you".
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Old 04-17-2009, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I figured you would Laugh at that quote. HP = TRQ X RPM / 5250, but that does not mean we want a motor that makes 120 wrtq so we have to rev to 8K to make 182 whp.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:23 PM
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^ OMG its gets better and better dude. At this rate i wont need to goto the gym for a week, my stomach hurts im laughing so hard.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
X2.
No way a well set up turbo 500 whp car get beat for any length of time by a 230 whp car of the same type what is he on crack or something?
I have personally seen 200-300whp NA cars beat up on turbo cars with WELL over 100whp more at the strip. It happens all the time.

Originally Posted by Terminator2
A SI Civic is a huge waste of money.
Hey, that's your opinion. No problem with that.

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I never heard of this bubble **** until this thread.
It's just part of the poser Honda slang. Never got into that sh*t. So dumb.

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Sounds like you have pretty quick hatch.
I enjoy it. It's a very fun car to drive.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
I have personally seen 200-300whp NA cars beat up on turbo cars with WELL over 100whp more at the strip. It happens all the time.



Hey, that's your opinion. No problem with that.
Driver Mod or tuning needed for those cars then. That is for sure!!!! People lie about their numbers sometimes too.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Driver Mod or tuning needed for those cars then. That is for sure!!!! People lie about their numbers sometimes too.
I realize this. Some N/A FWD cars can get down the track faster than a higher HP turbo FWD. Tuned or not. There are tons of factors involved.
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
I realize this. Some N/A FWD cars can get down the track faster than a higher HP turbo FWD. Tuned or not. There are tons of factors involved.
yea i have also seen this happen, when the turbo car cant catch any traction and the NA car is a strickly track only car sure it happens, but if both cars are actually set up for drag racing there is no reason the lower hp car should win.
Old 04-17-2009, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Look at all that gas you just wasted! Seriously, why bother?
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/lounge-42/si-vs-ss-tc-162632/
Old 04-17-2009, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
yea i have also seen this happen, when the turbo car cant catch any traction and the NA car is a strickly track only car sure it happens, but if both cars are actually set up for drag racing there is no reason the lower hp car should win.
It does not have to be an all out drag car, if that's what you were implying. I'm not saying F/I cars can't be faster. They are the majority of the time. I'm just saying that a car that can dyno 450whp on their current tune, CAN get beat by a 260whp N/A car in the same chassis. I've seen it.
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
It does not have to be an all out drag car, if that's what you were implying. I'm not saying F/I cars can't be faster. They are the majority of the time. I'm just saying that a car that can dyno 450whp on their current tune, CAN get beat by a 260whp N/A car in the same chassis. I've seen it.
i have too, and i agree, but i was saying it was because the Turbo car is losing because of either driver error, or not being properly set up compared to the NA car. if both cars were set up identically except one had a turbo motor making any more power, there is no way the NA car would win.
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Nothing like racing in traffic with people in your lane.

Nice pulls on the civic though but try to keep it to less used highways or when traffic is less. I would hate for someone, more so for the innocent people driving on the highways too, to get killed or anything, not like they asked you to race and then pulled in front of you.

The SS/TC's are no joke. I would like to race one myself.
Old 04-17-2009, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by beefy Si
It does not have to be an all out drag car, if that's what you were implying. I'm not saying F/I cars can't be faster. They are the majority of the time. I'm just saying that a car that can dyno 450whp on their current tune, CAN get beat by a 260whp N/A car in the same chassis. I've seen it.
Either the 450 whp car has huge lag or traction issues or someone is lying about power numbers. 200 whp difference cannot be overcome by a good driver alone. If that were true a 138 whp 2.2L Cobalt could keep up with my car at 338 whp. Aint going to happen. Even though I spin like crazy in 1st and 2nd I still beat cars much faster than a 2.2L Cobalt, and I am not God behind the wheel either.
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Originally Posted by scottw03
Nothing like racing in traffic with people in your lane.

Nice pulls on the civic though but try to keep it to less used highways or when traffic is less. I would hate for someone, more so for the innocent people driving on the highways too, to get killed or anything, not like they asked you to race and then pulled in front of you.

The SS/TC's are no joke. I would like to race one myself.
that highway usually has no one on it but for most of the pulls we had plenty of space
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I went to the track Friday and there was one lonely guy representing the 8th Civic Si seen and represent he did. He had a CAI and catback stainless steel exhaust. He was running consistent 15.8's@92 mph. Traction must have been owning him.
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I went to the track Friday and there was one lonely guy representing the 8th Civic Si seen and represent he did. He had a CAI and catback stainless steel exhaust. He was running consistent 15.8's@92 mph. Traction must have been owning him.
Sounds about right. I have seen a 225 whp Dakota beat a Civic SI. He runs 14.8 at 92 (Brother's truck)
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Sounds about right. I have seen a 225 whp Dakota beat a Civic SI. He runs 14.8 at 92 (Brother's truck)
I was trying to get lined up with him but when I saw him crack his 2nd 15.8, I went home. I was sick of being wasted by 10-11 second cars.
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Beefy. I keep seeing you take all types of angles here to defend the Civic but I can't really see what you are trying to prove here. What exactly is your point with all this?
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Originally Posted by SuperchargedSS
Beefy. I keep seeing you take all types of angles here to defend the Civic but I can't really see what you are trying to prove here. What exactly is your point with all this?
I think he is saying with the right driver, an Si is a lot faster than people are giving it credit for to which I'm sure he is partly correct. I still believe with all things being equal, a stock Si is going to have some problems staying with most stock SS/SCs. That's only from my personal experiance though. It's not much of a secret that a SS/TC will hand an SS/SC it's ass, so an Si won't stand a chance unless the SS/TC owner sucks at driving.
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Originally Posted by SS4ME
I think he is saying with the right driver, an Si is a lot faster than people are giving it credit for to which I'm sure he is partly correct. I still believe with all things being equal, a stock Si is going to have some problems staying with most stock SS/SCs. That's only from my personal experiance though. It's not much of a secret that a SS/TC will hand an SS/SC it's ass, so an Si won't stand a chance unless the SS/TC owner sucks at driving.
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Then why continue this thread, I think we all agree 100% on this...


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