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Old 03-13-2009, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GLHS837
So, that begs the question, what full size car is more "worth it for the money"? Remember, its not just the motor your getting. Theres other things that make up that price, from a beefier rear end with better gearing, world class brakes, transmission programming that AMG helped with, revised ESP programming. To get a 5.7 LX to match an SRT in all categories, with any sort of reliability margins, you'll spend as much as the difference, and void the warranty to boot.

Now, if you've got an issue with Dodges, that a whole other matter, but just looking at things factually, its hard to find another full size car thats a better value, in the bang to buck ratio.
I like charger's except for the fact you can't get them in manual transmission. But Dodges are horrible for rusting up here, just poor design and the orange peel in the paint isn't exactly is top notch paint job IMO. yeah they have to beef up there transmission and such otherwise you be replacing them like crazy like there shitty ones in some of the durangos and dakotas. SRT8 chargers are good family cars but if you don't have a family I'd rather go with a SS or some other sport compact before a SRT8 charger anyday
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Originally Posted by JsavageSS/TC
I stomped the **** out of that srt8 today......went 40-100.....It was back there about 3 cars at 100....

so this tells me that the R/T I ran with the other day has some serious buisness going on under the hood or my car was just running shitty that day. Both cars were auto, so hmmm..
yeah okay i dont see this happening with ur power levels
Old 03-14-2009, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueBolt66
I like charger's except for the fact you can't get them in manual transmission. But Dodges are horrible for rusting up here, just poor design and the orange peel in the paint isn't exactly is top notch paint job IMO. yeah they have to beef up there transmission and such otherwise you be replacing them like crazy like there shitty ones in some of the durangos and dakotas. SRT8 chargers are good family cars but if you don't have a family I'd rather go with a SS or some other sport compact before a SRT8 charger anyday
I'm not aware of any rusting isues with the chargers, are you speaking of other Dodge products? I dont really track any except the Neon and the LXs, and Ive not seen any reports of premature rusting on those, but we have had a few reports of orange peel and a very few paint defects.

Trannys, again, I cant speak to any except the SRT-4 and the LXs, but those are bulletproof. Only one failure of the NAG1 trans in the LXs, a freak apparently, otherwise, folks are putting well upwards of 500whp through them with no issues. Of course, that trans is sourced from a Mercedes design.

One thing about older, and some current Dodge auto transmissions. Dodge screwed up by going with a unique fluid formula. And if you didnt use it, you screwed your trans. Bad move, seeing as it gave them a bad rep for weak trannys, but its done. Manuals, I cant speak of.
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yeah okay i dont see this happening with ur power levels
Dude, STFU
Old 03-14-2009, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by evilgoat
yeah okay i dont see this happening with ur power levels
The RT weighs 4200 lbs and has maybe 300 whp cobalt weighs 2900 lbs and has 280 whp. If both guys can drive the cobalt will walk pretty hard from a roll and probably from dig too.
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The RT weighs 4200 lbs and has maybe 300 whp cobalt weighs 2900 lbs and has 280 whp. If both guys can drive the cobalt will walk pretty hard from a roll and probably from dig too.
The kid was saying that about an SRT8 not the RT.

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I stomped the **** out of that srt8 today......went 40-100.....It was back there about 3 cars at 100....
Old 03-14-2009, 11:14 AM
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The kid was saying that about an SRT8 not the RT.
HA HA, Dude, I go to Mcminnville once or twice every month, you find a SRT8 and I will gladly show you...... lol

Oh, and I'm no Kid
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Originally Posted by emiller
The kid was saying that about an SRT8 not the RT.
Oh. Ok. That would be a really close race then. Could go either way. Power to weight ratios are nearly identical.
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
The RT weighs 4200 lbs and has maybe 300 whp cobalt weighs 2900 lbs and has 280 whp. If both guys can drive the cobalt will walk pretty hard from a roll and probably from dig too.
i was referring to the srt8 not the rt charger. we all know rt chargers are low 14s high 13s with a great driver at times.
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r/t ares slow.......srt-8's are quick but not very fast for the money. 40k for a car that only does low 13s.
when the t/c does 13.6-13.8 for 22k.
plus the srt-8 looks like ****
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Oh. Ok. That would be a really close race then. Could go either way. Power to weight ratios are nearly identical.

a srt4 with those power levels will not outrun a srt8 not a tc balt will. come on guys who are we trying to fool here. srt8 are beastly from a roll they have sick top end
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this one didn't
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
r/t ares slow.......srt-8's are quick but not very fast for the money. 40k for a car that only does low 13s.
when the t/c does 13.6-13.8 for 22k.
plus the srt-8 looks like ****

Damn, your hard to get through to, arent you first it was not fast, now its not fast for the money. What part of apples to apples dont you get? Do I tell an M5 owner his car isnt fast for the money because my car does low 13sm high 12s for 40K, and his only does 12.5 or 12 flat for 80-90K? Hell no, because his car is in a different class than mine. Same for AMG.

As for it looking like ****, sorry you feel that way, I like the way it looks.
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ya but the m5 can handle the srt8 cant.
srt8 is just meant for the straight away thats y i have no prob tellin a srt8 owner is car isnt fast for the 40k he spent
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Yeah, the srt8 doesn;t look gay, it looks sweet
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
ya but the m5 can handle the srt8 cant.
srt8 is just meant for the straight away thats y i have no prob tellin a srt8 owner is car isnt fast for the 40k he spent


And your still wrong, I know page 1 was two days ago, but if you bothered to read the link I posted, where the SRT-8 did a road course lap only .1 second behind the CLS55 AMG, a thing any car would be proud of. Read the story in that link, and see if they say straight line only.

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...2&postcount=18
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im just tellin u wat happend when my friend test drove one with me in the car it sucked. and other srt8 owners i have asked in person
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
ya but the m5 can handle the srt8 cant.
srt8 is just meant for the straight away thats y i have no prob tellin a srt8 owner is car isnt fast for the 40k he spent
wrong the srt8 handles extreemly well, if u dont know what are you talking about then u better shhhhhhh. i will let G- to back me up with the facts. all you got to do to these cars is put a set of F1 tires and they are a different beast when it comes to handling.

edtit: well it looks like he already did
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i've ridden in one they suck, but its a big ass car so who cares
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
im just tellin u wat happend when my friend test drove one with me in the car it sucked. and other srt8 owners i have asked in person
so you draw your conclusion based on your friends experience, that is great
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Lets just all compare our cars to the Bugatti Veyron...that way all of our cars suck.
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
i've ridden in one they suck, but its a big ass car so who cares
thats fine your subjective opionion is just well just that. But try to be open minded and dont bash the car just because you dislike it.
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i was just sayin the that op should be able to beat a srt8 and that the r/t is slow
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Man, this thread is funny. I think the SS/TC is a sick car for the dollars. The SRT-8 Charger looks like a f'king monster and it has to be with the 6.1L under the hood.

I think the 5.7L R/T's look a little boring, but the SRT-8 is a gorgeous car.

It all depends upon your needs. If you need to sit 4, the SRT-8 is the way to go. If you only need 2 in a car, the SS/TC is the way to go.

Plus, having looked at pics of the SRT-8, I think the interior is nicer than the SS/TC or any balt for that matter.

For the money though, the SS/TC is awesome. I have driven one (don't own one though) and it was damn fast. We all know what they're capable of with a tune and some other minor mods.

They're both nice cars...but in a totally different class.
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Originally Posted by drew1991sf
i've ridden in one they suck, but its a big ass car so who cares
Your opinion is based on a test drive, on public roads, with an inexperienced driver? Sucked how? Please tell me the shortcomings you found from the passenger seat. Ive driven all the SRTs for a total of maybe 75-90 laps around real racetracks, like Michelins test track in Laurens, South Carolina, and the BeverRun racetrack and also got to ride passenger on a few laps driven by pro drivers, Skip Barber instructor kinda guys, and you really dont have a leg to stand on.

Just admit you dont like them, its okay, but to make statements that cant be backed up in reality just doesnt work. You asked other SRT-8 owners how their cars handled and they old you it sucked? Really? Man, just give up already.


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