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Old 06-21-2012, 09:49 AM
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SS/TC Vs LS2 C6 Vette

Cobalt SS / TC Vs Corvette C6 Vs 2012 ZX6R - YouTube

Just wanted to see how I'd do against a bone stock 6-speed C6 Vette. Was a little suprised at the results. In the dig race I get him by about 3 cars or so. From a 35 roll to around 115 I get about 4, maybe 5 cars on him.
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nice!!! seems like it would be a semi-even race. your tc probably weighs less than 3300 lbs with you in it (probably less!) and that vette weighs about 3600 with someone in it. do the math on the horsepower, yours I am assuming around 330 whp (are any tc's more than that?), and the vette (stock) around 435whp, those are some pretty inline ratios. you smoked him!
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hmm.. you took him on the launch... wasnt expecting that at all.
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
nice!!! seems like it would be a semi-even race. your tc probably weighs less than 3300 lbs with you in it (probably less!) and that vette weighs about 3600 with someone in it. do the math on the horsepower, yours I am assuming around 330 whp (are any tc's more than that?), and the vette (stock) around 435whp, those are some pretty inline ratios. you smoked him!
no way the vette is 435whp. that would mean its almost at 500bhp. the ls2 came with 400bhp so about 340whp.

edit: ls3 has about 30whp more
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Originally Posted by hawlyns711
nice!!! seems like it would be a semi-even race. your tc probably weighs less than 3300 lbs with you in it (probably less!) and that vette weighs about 3600 with someone in it. do the math on the horsepower, yours I am assuming around 330 whp (are any tc's more than that?), and the vette (stock) around 435whp, those are some pretty inline ratios. you smoked him!
My car weighs 3240 with me in it and about a 1/2 tank of gas. And 07LSJ is right, this is just a regular C6 Vette, so 400bhp. I actually probably would have a closer race against a stock C6 Z06 -- or the one I ran needs to get intake and exhaust mods and tune that bish.
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
My car weighs 3240 with me in it and about a 1/2 tank of gas. And 07LSJ is right, this is just a regular C6 Vette, so 400bhp. I actually probably would have a closer race against a stock C6 Z06 -- or the one I ran needs to get intake and exhaust mods and tune that bish.
z06 is beast man. and the higher mph you go, the more they got an advantage. and they have an advantage off the hole so... lol good luck!
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i dont think youd touch a z06 C6

buddy just dynoed at 497 to the wheels. lol..

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Originally Posted by reign1
i dont think youd touch a z06 C6

buddy just dynoed at 497 to the wheels. lol..

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If you figure I put 5 cars on a 400hp Vette from a roll, I'd be willing to bet adding 105hp would make it closer with the Z06 maybe pulling me just a little bit on the top end.

Unless of course it happens to be this guy:
EVO X vs Corvette Z06 - YouTube

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Cool vid!

is there any rules to the dig you guys done? like no rev launches?
digs in the street you can see me dumping clutch @ +3k Balt or Vette lol
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
If you figure I put 5 cars on a 400hp Vette from a roll, I'd be willing to bet adding 105hp would make it closer with the Z06 maybe pulling me just a little bit on the top end.

Unless of course it happens to be this guy:
EVO X vs Corvette Z06 - YouTube

2 holes in the theory buddy.

1. your vette owner didnt know how to drive his car if you pulled him on the dig

2. 400hp is the base for the vetter. after RWD drive train loss. prolly 360sih im assuming.

z06 dynoed at 497WHP

would be fun to watch tho.
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Originally Posted by reign1
2 holes in the theory buddy.

1. your vette owner didnt know how to drive his car if you pulled him on the dig

2. 400hp is the base for the vetter. after RWD drive train loss. prolly 360sih im assuming.

z06 dynoed at 497WHP

would be fun to watch tho.
Happy dyno much? Average stock LS7 Z06 dyno is 440-460rwhp. Dyno numbers really don't mean jack **** unless you're dynoing the cars on the exact same dyno and at the same location.

And we both took it easy on the launch for that race because both cars are on street tires. The guy driving the Vette can drive just fine.
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
If you figure I put 5 cars on a 400hp Vette from a roll, I'd be willing to bet adding 105hp would make it closer with the Z06 maybe pulling me just a little bit on the top end.

Unless of course it happens to be this guy:
EVO X vs Corvette Z06 - YouTube

Yeaaaaa, no... A Z06 traps at almost 120 mph and can run 11s. Your car runs low 13's at 110. Honestly a c6 base vette is good for mid 12's so Im going to have to chalk this one up to driver error.

Look here:

C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge - Corvette Forum

http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f87/q...c6-zr1-124634/
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Yeaaaaa, no... A Z06 traps at almost 120 mph and can run 11s. Your car runs low 13's at 110. Honestly a c6 base vette is good for mid 12's so Im going to have to chalk this one up to driver error.

Look here:

C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge - Corvette Forum

Quickest STOCK C6 Z06? C6 ZR1? - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum
You forget I'm at 6000ft above sea level. N/A cars suffer terrible up here. The average DA at my local track is around 8000ft. If you took a Z06 that ran a mid-11 @ ~120mph at sea level and brought it here, it would run a high 12 @~110mph at that kind of density altitude.

Observe a stock 2011 CTS-V running 13s at my local strip:
Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW 335i - YouTube
2011 Cadillac CTS V vs Fast Volkswagen - YouTube

Now before you blame "driver error", take note that this CTS-V is an automatic.

Cars are SLOW as hell up here. It's bad if they are turbo, worse if they are supercharged, and downright pitiful if they are naturally aspirated.
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Yeaaaaa, no... A Z06 traps at almost 120 mph and can run 11s. Your car runs low 13's at 110. Honestly a c6 base vette is good for mid 12's so Im going to have to chalk this one up to driver error.

Look here:

C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge - Corvette Forum

Quickest STOCK C6 Z06? C6 ZR1? - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum
Just because he's only run a best of 13 secs in the 1/4 doesn't mean his car isn't capable of better times in different situations.
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Originally Posted by Boosted4
Just because he's only run a best of 13 secs in the 1/4 doesn't mean his car isn't capable of better times in different situations.
he must have sprayed magical pixy dust on his tires and prepped that street 3 times then

NO BETTER JUDGE THAN A STRIP, seriously?

Nice kill btw.

Serious driver mod though, he should of had you led by second gear easily, I heard you hit rev limiter in first
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
You forget I'm at 6000ft above sea level. N/A cars suffer terrible up here. The average DA at my local track is around 8000ft. If you took a Z06 that ran a mid-11 @ ~120mph at sea level and brought it here, it would run a high 12 @~110mph at that kind of density altitude.

Observe a stock 2011 CTS-V running 13s at my local strip:
Cadillac CTS-V vs BMW 335i - YouTube
2011 Cadillac CTS V vs Fast Volkswagen - YouTube

Now before you blame "driver error", take note that this CTS-V is an automatic.

Cars are SLOW as hell up here. It's bad if they are turbo, worse if they are supercharged, and downright pitiful if they are naturally aspirated.
U should have specified the sea level thing. NA does do HORRIBLE at higher elevations which makes perfect sense. Just curious is that Colorado landscape I see?

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Originally Posted by Boosted4
Just because he's only run a best of 13 secs in the 1/4 doesn't mean his car isn't capable of better times in different situations.
Three factors determine how quick a car is:

1) 60 ft
2) mph time
3) mph trap


Low 13's with a trap of 110 is not that fast. The trap is good but the time not so much. I would be willing to bet his 60ft is not better than 2.0 and as it was shown his car is at 6k ft elevation which is probly hindering it.

Either way if you do the numbers from a strictly numbers standpoint a car with a low 13 110 mph trap should not beat a car that runs mid 12's and traps 115.
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Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Yeaaaaa, no... A Z06 traps at almost 120 mph and can run 11s. Your car runs low 13's at 110. Honestly a c6 base vette is good for mid 12's so Im going to have to chalk this one up to driver error.

Look here:

C6 1/4 Mile Performance Challenge - Corvette Forum

Quickest STOCK C6 Z06? C6 ZR1? - Z06Vette.com - Corvette Z06 Forum
C6 Zs trap in the mid 120s. Stock C5s trap in the 115-117 range. Standard C6s run mid 12s all day. These threads are just getting retarded at this point, honestly. Next week stock TCs will be putting buses on GT-Rs.
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
he must have sprayed magical pixy dust on his tires and prepped that street 3 times then

NO BETTER JUDGE THAN A STRIP, seriously?

Nice kill btw.

Serious driver mod though, he should of had you led by second gear easily, I heard you hit rev limiter in first
Yeah, I eased into it and then it started to spin so I just planted my right foot and let it ride the limiter until I thought I was going fast enough to goto second gear. I don't NLS 1-2 anymore since I got tuned.


Originally Posted by 1BADSS/SC
Three factors determine how quick a car is:

1) 60 ft
2) mph time
3) mph trap


Low 13's with a trap of 110 is not that fast. The trap is good but the time not so much. I would be willing to bet his 60ft is not better than 2.0 and as it was shown his car is at 6k ft elevation which is probly hindering it.

Either way if you do the numbers from a strictly numbers standpoint a car with a low 13 110 mph trap should not beat a car that runs mid 12's and traps 115.
I had a 2.1 60ft on my 13.1 pass. When James did my tune, I didn't realize he had a limiter set @ 4000rpm until I went to the track and couldnt warm up my drag radials in the burnout box because I couldn't do a good burnout. That's fixed now. I'm going back in about a week with regular rev limiter and some peewee footballs so I can get into the 12s. If I really wanted to go through the hassle of swapping front hubs so I could run smaller brakes and 15" or 16" slicks, I know I could get into the low-mid 12s with a 110mph trap.
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Originally Posted by Mark Aubele
C6 Zs trap in the mid 120s. Stock C5s trap in the 115-117 range. Standard C6s run mid 12s all day. These threads are just getting retarded at this point, honestly. Next week stock TCs will be putting buses on GT-Rs.
But I don't post unless I have a video.
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Originally Posted by Sonicyeller
My car weighs 3240 with me in it and about a 1/2 tank of gas. And 07LSJ is right, this is just a regular C6 Vette, so 400bhp. I actually probably would have a closer race against a stock C6 Z06 -- or the one I ran needs to get intake and exhaust mods and tune that bish.
ok so at least my weight guess was in line lol
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no way the vette is 435whp. that would mean its almost at 500bhp. the ls2 came with 400bhp so about 340whp.
my saturn stock was 205whp and 205bhp omgbbq!!!
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Stock c6 Z06's with a good driver still post 116 trap times all day long at those elevations. I'm sorry but a stock turbo cobalt will not come close to hanging with a stock c6 z06 from a roll. Yes N/A cars suffer from elevation but so do turbo cars. And a c6 has better gearing, is probably just as light if not lighter than your car, plus the areo is better. At elevation I have been 170 mph in my buddies c6 z06 when we came up there for a LS shoot out. How many stock turbo cobalts you think could go 170 mph at sea level non the less at elevation.

I'm not doubting your win vs this vette but I am just telling you unless you can find another person who can't drive their car for **** ( since you beat a vette from a dig where they are known to be some of the best dig cars ) then you have no chance. But do get videos atleast you do have proof of your victory unlike some of these unicorn stories on here.


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