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09-18-2006, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cobaltstg2
i will race him but i will probally race from 40 mph roll and see how it goes i wont talk any smack cause i know they are suppose to be fast but i thought i had a chance from a roll ... i will let you guys know how i do
09-18-2006, 07:08 PM
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wow looks like my previous post was deleted??????
here is dyno info for you, and this is stage 1 formaly known as stage .5
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
here is dyno info for you, and this is stage 1 formaly known as stage .5
http://dynocomp.com/subaru.php?view=subaru
09-18-2006, 07:13 PM
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35 roll is PERFECT. Sitting in 2nd... 35 is right where you SC just kicks your car in the ass and gets it moving FAST!
60mph is definately bad... that is right before you shift in 2nd... and just out of the good pulling powerband of 3rd...
and 80... No need for that... but you should be pretty good in 3rd at that point to make it a close race.
But a 35 roll, you have the BEST chance of taking him. That is what I would race from. Save 75-80 rolls for a$$holes on the interstate. There really is no point. But all this is how things work in my eyes.
60mph is definately bad... that is right before you shift in 2nd... and just out of the good pulling powerband of 3rd...
and 80... No need for that... but you should be pretty good in 3rd at that point to make it a close race.
But a 35 roll, you have the BEST chance of taking him. That is what I would race from. Save 75-80 rolls for a$$holes on the interstate. There really is no point. But all this is how things work in my eyes.
09-18-2006, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sshaner
that dyno is one with little done....
09-18-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OniMirage
you are correct ... and the one that is going to race cobaltstg2 is stock so it has even less power
09-18-2006, 07:24 PM
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my buddy has a 06 wrx and we've dont rolls from 20, 40 and 60. From the first two runs were pretty much even. He may of had the slightest lead. From 60, I had him by a car and a half to 120. Hes no STi but hope this helps. Rock em!
09-18-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sshaner
but also i have seen them with 288 awhp stock as well.....
I could just go ask the guys at dyno comp they are litterally within walking distance of me right now
09-18-2006, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFieldMP
35 roll is PERFECT. Sitting in 2nd... 35 is right where you SC just kicks your car in the ass and gets it moving FAST!
60mph is definately bad... that is right before you shift in 2nd... and just out of the good pulling powerband of 3rd...
and 80... No need for that... but you should be pretty good in 3rd at that point to make it a close race.
But a 35 roll, you have the BEST chance of taking him. That is what I would race from. Save 75-80 rolls for a$$holes on the interstate. There really is no point. But all this is how things work in my eyes.
60mph is definately bad... that is right before you shift in 2nd... and just out of the good pulling powerband of 3rd...
and 80... No need for that... but you should be pretty good in 3rd at that point to make it a close race.
But a 35 roll, you have the BEST chance of taking him. That is what I would race from. Save 75-80 rolls for a$$holes on the interstate. There really is no point. But all this is how things work in my eyes.
Read this and do it you should win
Or do your homework and find out what I'm trying to say but won't!
09-18-2006, 07:34 PM
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im just saying there is a silver sti here in prescott that has 288awhp stock nothing done performance wise yet.... then my buddy ryan has 328 awhp..... but isnt stock.....
09-18-2006, 07:55 PM
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Why is there any question. Simply put the STi is a faster car.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
09-18-2006, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tube
Why is there any question. Simply put the STi is a faster car.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
09-18-2006, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tube
Why is there any question. Simply put the STi is a faster car.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
. Go pwn this dude.
09-18-2006, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by sshaner
he wont smoke him from a roll it will be closer, if the sti cant drive then you will win..... im telling you a 35 mph roll
09-18-2006, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tube
Why is there any question. Simply put the STi is a faster car.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
09-18-2006, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
please show me a stock sti running 13.0, please, and then how are you going to generalize that all sti's run XX.XX and all stage 2 balts run XX.XX.
Can you show me a Stage 2 SS/SC smoking an STI?
09-18-2006, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tube
Why is there any question. Simply put the STi is a faster car.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
You can try all kinds of stupid tactics to give yourself an advantage, a 141mph roll, a race up a hill, racing with your eyes closed, in reverse, in neutral rolling down a hill, etc.
13.0 stock > 13.9 modded.
i like this post. go from a dig or go home.
09-18-2006, 11:13 PM
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Adding a 2.8 pulley , and tune up from Rob like u said .....I would race him . At best its toss up if the ST1 is stock . You "should" have a solid 103-105 mph in the 1/4
While yes I do agree the STi's are capable of a 13.0'ish ET stock , I have yet to see with my own eyes one go faster than a 13.4 in a stock one .
If ya do lose , I garantee he wont beat you near as bad as he thinks he's gonna beat you . Jus dont screw up driving
While yes I do agree the STi's are capable of a 13.0'ish ET stock , I have yet to see with my own eyes one go faster than a 13.4 in a stock one .
If ya do lose , I garantee he wont beat you near as bad as he thinks he's gonna beat you . Jus dont screw up driving
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ok i just saw proof of the tested 13.0. cant argue with that. i still say the cobalt with his mods will win from a roll though. look at trap speeds as somewhat of an indicator. i will gladly video tape any stock STi that wants to run me from a roll. you gotta keep in mind that yes it is a 13.0 car but look at the stats, yes this is magazine racing but thats all we have at this time.
sti= 300hp, 300 ft. lbs of torque, weight 3315 lbs., AWD. quarter 13.0@ 103.5
SS/SC= roughly 250 hp, 240 ft.lbs of torque, weight 2950 lbs, FWD. quarter (with a good driver) 13.5-13.6 at 105-106.
how is this a land slide victory for the STi? i would bet the ss wins this one, and im not being a fan boy, simple conclusion based on data and real world experiences of mine
sti= 300hp, 300 ft. lbs of torque, weight 3315 lbs., AWD. quarter 13.0@ 103.5
SS/SC= roughly 250 hp, 240 ft.lbs of torque, weight 2950 lbs, FWD. quarter (with a good driver) 13.5-13.6 at 105-106.
how is this a land slide victory for the STi? i would bet the ss wins this one, and im not being a fan boy, simple conclusion based on data and real world experiences of mine
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Originally Posted by hatrickstu
ok i just saw proof of the tested 13.0. cant argue with that. i still say the cobalt with his mods will win from a roll though. look at trap speeds as somewhat of an indicator. i will gladly video tape any stock STi that wants to run me from a roll. you gotta keep in mind that yes it is a 13.0 car but look at the stats, yes this is magazine racing but thats all we have at this time.
sti= 300hp, 300 ft. lbs of torque, weight 3315 lbs., AWD. quarter 13.0@ 103.5
SS/SC= roughly 250 hp, 240 ft.lbs of torque, weight 2950 lbs, FWD. quarter (with a good driver) 13.5-13.6 at 105-106.
how is this a land slide victory for the STi? i would bet the ss wins this one, and im not being a fan boy, simple conclusion based on data and real world experiences of mine
sti= 300hp, 300 ft. lbs of torque, weight 3315 lbs., AWD. quarter 13.0@ 103.5
SS/SC= roughly 250 hp, 240 ft.lbs of torque, weight 2950 lbs, FWD. quarter (with a good driver) 13.5-13.6 at 105-106.
how is this a land slide victory for the STi? i would bet the ss wins this one, and im not being a fan boy, simple conclusion based on data and real world experiences of mine
09-19-2006, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by superSS/SC
I never said it was a land slide for an STI, but it isn't a land slide for an SS/SC either. You can't compare trap speeds either because trap speeds are effected by traction. Honestly stage 2 with 2.8 should have the advantage from the ever so popular roll, depending on the mph.