chevysalesman614

^^ we both know he's not talking about an 04 s/c'd cobra.

04Venom

Ok, I just want to get that out in the open!!!

chevysalesman614

even a full bolt on ss s/c is no comp for a stock 04 cobra.

04Venom

This was already discussed on SVT Performance:

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...d.php?t=305392

Deathcult

Well the guy I raced was a 16 year old kid who JUST got the car and he just wanted to play around with it so we did and for him not knowing the gear ratios or anything on the car, he did pretty good. I gave him props. He beat me by 1/2 a car length.

The second guy I raced was a 18/19 year old guy and he had his for a few days and he asked me to race cause he likes the cobalts a lot. So we took it from a stop and he stalled before he got the car moving I think because he just didnt move at all. He then got it going and beat me by a car length. I also gave him props.

So yeah they didnt know how to drive it and I admit it. I know the cobalt cant compete with the cobras. But they are some nice rides man. =)

Oh and they were the new body style stangs if that helps. idk the year.

codyss

The 03/04 Cobra is another reason I bought my GTO.

04Venom

lol! Thats a fast car, but the Snake will still edge him out!

Stock for stock that is. All bets are off when it comes to mods.

chevysalesman614

cant acess that w/o signing up.. i wont be doing that..

Deathcult

idk is it me or does the new model mustang look better than the GTO.

Not trying to hate on you man, I just don't like the way the GTO looks. Its to...idk how to explain it. I just don't like the looks on it. But its a great car none the less.

JERMzSS

This is just my own run in with a few mustangs im not on anybodys side here....A few days after i got my SS/SC i was going down the interstate and a silver 02ish mustang gt wanted to go. We take off i have no idea if its auto or not... I shifted into 3rd and we run up to about 120mph. It was so even it wasnt even funny. Nobody droped back or pulled at all. Well about 4 months later on that same strech of high way here pulls up the same mustang. I remember the steeda sticker in the 1/4 glass. We go agian LOL....my car has more miles on it and its alot cooler outside maybe around 45 or so. I pulled a whole car on him well over 100mph. Im still waiting on round 3 and im hoping I have stage 2 by then
The only other mustang that I have raced was a mach 1 around the same year and from 20 to 80 he had a olmost a full car on me. I was impressed and so was he.

So what I have learned about them is the SS/SC likes the cooler air more and stock Gts are a hell of a close race.

Rangerondubz

Mustangs suck big monkey *****, and im not refering to Cobras....

chevysalesman614

i had a race that was alot like that. but from like 35-40 up to about 110.
i think it was an 02 GT, he said all he had was a flowmaster exhaust. (I had ZZP 2.9, 42 lb/hr, and tune only.) ... it was a long time ago. the guy was cool. the first time he decided not to down shift, the result of that one was obvious. then i slowed down, he realized that i was a contender, then we ran again.. dead even. when we got to the light i asked him what he had done.. "flowmaster".. then he said "you should put the SS badges back on"

I personally have not run into an ******* mustang driver.. i dont know why everyone hates on them.

are you talking about the actual wild horses that roam the great plains?

cobi

Ever been over to the mustang forum? you'll find a few there just say you have a cobalt and they come out of the woodwork to flame you.

chevysalesman614

i meant in person. i could care less about some fat fruitcake that is sitting in his moms basement.

but, when they come over here, we do the same thing, for the most part... so, everything is relative.

Onyx Dragon

Dead even in a 5 speed? Negatory. What's that mod you guys talk about..oh yeah, driver's mod. As in, the mustang needs it. Especially since third gear is the strong gear for the Mustang GTs and he gained on him in that gear

Fat fruitcake.. +rep

chevysalesman614

any avg driver in one of those GT's can take a good driver in an ss s/c from a dig.

assuming both cars are stock.

from a roll however, i agree.. both drivers being even, the coby is faster.

thanks. that combats the neg. rep i get from all my fellow cobalt owners

cobi

I think ive had a 50/50 experience with them in person. They are either really interested in the car or wont look over after being beat and drop back or drive off like a bat outta hell. I guees some just cant grasp the whole physics concept and realize it is possible for a 4-banger to beat a V8.

haha on the fat fruitcake

Onyx Dragon

I get crap from them all the time. Usualy the "Nice family car" comment after they lose. The new ones will beat me though. I haven't had the opportunity to run one on the track yet though.

Super_SS

can u also post the info on the 04 cobra...

04Venom

Do you really want me to?

cobi

I think it looks something like this

You will see ass end with the word COBRA across the back that will proceed to get smaller and smaller and sudden sideways rear end movements will occur as it shifts.

Onyx Dragon

PSH!! I can keep up with one!!





















as long as he stays in second and shifts under 2500 RPM...

cakeeater

have you ever seen the majority of cobalt owners that come over there?! codyss...good representative to send to a mustang forum. seriously, there are a few members with cobalts that even have the little icon bar in their sig that has a pic of the ss, with the supercharged logo and they dont get ****, then some come in and talk like their cars are GODLY. Someone from ss.com came to the mustang forums and tried to tell us his car could run with i think it was uhhh...doodads car? from a roll....yea ok, doodad runs 11.7's trapping in the 120s. I think everyone just hates on everyone on other forums. You guys have a horrible rep in alot of forums, mustang forums has a bad rep, club rsx has the worst rep ever, uhh srt forums is frowned upon terribly. It's just stupid arguing all over the internet...ever looked at the comments on streetfire? there are a maximum of 10 comments on each vid before it turns into either domestic vs import, evo vs sti, or camaro vs mustang.

as for the "im with stupid thing" s197 gt's have gone 13.3@104 stock. msrp is 25,695 for a base model, so as far as i know, and until you prove me wrong, that is the quickest new car for the price right now. And the v6 is the quickest new car under 20k (retails at 19k and have run high 14's). Again im not trying to start a heated argument or anything, but these are just facts. If you have other information ill be glad to admit i am wrong, but as far as i am aware, both are the fastest cars at their price.

and cody if price doesn't matter why is the ls2 gto not compared to the gt500 instead of the gt?

cobi

O yah I hear ya after/during that whole mess with Cody I jumped over there to try and smooth things out a little and said hey if anyone has questions or wants to know real facts about these cars shoot your questions towards me an ill see how much I can help without a bunch of mine is better yours is **** BS. Some guy pokes in and posts a pic of a drag stang doing a wheelie off the line and says look at this next time you think your cobalt is so badass. Its like ok nobody ever said anything about it being badass and im not talking **** why did you even post man.

And youll get a lot of oh I can hang from a roll, cuz we sure as hell cant from a dig

And your right its on other forums too and especially here aka shortbuss.net lol, inmaturity everywhere man O well what can you do

04Venom

Since you asked... Here's a comparison. Oh yeah, plenty of people have recorded 400 - 415 instead of the advertised 390. I personally believe Ford did this purposely to make amends on the problems with the 1999, and 2001 Cobra.


2004 SVT Cobra

4.6L 390 hp V8
Horsepower 390 @ 6000 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 390 @ 3500 RPM
Curb weight 3665


2002 Mustang GT

4.6L 260 hp V8
Horsepower 260 @ 5250 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 302 @ 4000 RPM
Curb weight 3273


2005 Coblat SS/SC

2.0L 205 hp I4
Horsepower 205 @ 5600 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 200 @ 4400 RPM
Curb weight 2991