stock 07 cobalt ss s/c vs 03 srt4 with Mopar intake and BOV
02-12-2008, 09:50 PM
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Agreed bov's don't do poop...which is why I said that 260 isn't believable....but i've seen srt4's dyno right around 230 on dynojets stock....and yes I know dynos are only numbers that should only be used for tuning purposes and not bragging rights.
02-13-2008, 02:35 AM
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lolll thats funny.....btw klugsrt4 i'll give you my friend's number so you can teach him how to drive his srt4....out of curiousity, klugsrt4 what do you think my friend is doing wrong when driving his srt4 to get rape by 2 cars from a STOCK COBALT??
02-13-2008, 04:37 AM
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Well,tell Me What U Think About This,
I've Got 2007 Ss/sc Cia,dampener,h&r Springs,stage 2 ,i Went To Qualcomm Stadium Where They Have An 1/8 Mile Drag Stripp In San Diego Ca, I Ran The 1/8 Mile And I Ran On My Stock Pirelli Tires And I Ran A 9.325 And My 60 Ft Was 2.116 And My Reaction Time Was .523 . Anything Under A .500 Is Redlighting Here .can U Guys Give Me A Heads And Let My Know How Well U Guys Are Doing On The 1/8 To, Thanks
02-13-2008, 10:05 AM
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If you went from a dig it could be wheel hop (dash starts to rattle), bogging (feels like the engine's about to die) or simply not knowing how hard to put the hammer down after he hooks. He might be munging the 1-2 shift as well, not sure if SRT-4's are prone to clutch slip, but if you're making like a bunny rabbit with your front wheels all the way up to the 1-2 shift, you're not going anywhere fast. Wheel hop tends to exaggerate the RPM's of the motor, and he'll shift out of first earlier than normal if he shifts by the tach alone. Even if he tries to get up to the right speed while wheel hopping, banging the engine against the rev limiter is also bad.
After the launch, or if you went from a roll, he's probably shifting like crap, maybe he's dropping out of gear too early and missing the next gear's powerband (that would feel like the car just ran over glue), or maybe he's just granny shifting (taking too long to get it back in gear). If he misses or grinds a gear, that will hurt him even more.
Really, there's a ton of things he could be doing wrong, and all those go for you as well, if you're doing any of the above then you're not getting the most out of your car either. No way to tell for sure tho unless we see a vid of said race.
02-13-2008, 10:41 AM
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ok then... its not a debate on what i can and cant do so u say what u need to and i will live with the facts i have... just to put into perspective my dyno numbers were done in a 90 degree day so my numbers are lower then expected when i raced on a mid 50 degree day.... plus i said without the juice. I have a 50 shot going at it and that was installed after the dyno run was done
02-13-2008, 12:01 PM
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02-13-2008, 02:32 PM
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02-13-2008, 09:06 PM
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I know you asked Klug, but I'll chime in anyway.
If you went from a dig it could be wheel hop (dash starts to rattle), bogging (feels like the engine's about to die) or simply not knowing how hard to put the hammer down after he hooks. He might be munging the 1-2 shift as well, not sure if SRT-4's are prone to clutch slip, but if you're making like a bunny rabbit with your front wheels all the way up to the 1-2 shift, you're not going anywhere fast. Wheel hop tends to exaggerate the RPM's of the motor, and he'll shift out of first earlier than normal if he shifts by the tach alone. Even if he tries to get up to the right speed while wheel hopping, banging the engine against the rev limiter is also bad.
After the launch, or if you went from a roll, he's probably shifting like crap, maybe he's dropping out of gear too early and missing the next gear's powerband (that would feel like the car just ran over glue), or maybe he's just granny shifting (taking too long to get it back in gear). If he misses or grinds a gear, that will hurt him even more.
Really, there's a ton of things he could be doing wrong, and all those go for you as well, if you're doing any of the above then you're not getting the most out of your car either. No way to tell for sure tho unless we see a vid of said race.
If you went from a dig it could be wheel hop (dash starts to rattle), bogging (feels like the engine's about to die) or simply not knowing how hard to put the hammer down after he hooks. He might be munging the 1-2 shift as well, not sure if SRT-4's are prone to clutch slip, but if you're making like a bunny rabbit with your front wheels all the way up to the 1-2 shift, you're not going anywhere fast. Wheel hop tends to exaggerate the RPM's of the motor, and he'll shift out of first earlier than normal if he shifts by the tach alone. Even if he tries to get up to the right speed while wheel hopping, banging the engine against the rev limiter is also bad.
After the launch, or if you went from a roll, he's probably shifting like crap, maybe he's dropping out of gear too early and missing the next gear's powerband (that would feel like the car just ran over glue), or maybe he's just granny shifting (taking too long to get it back in gear). If he misses or grinds a gear, that will hurt him even more.
Really, there's a ton of things he could be doing wrong, and all those go for you as well, if you're doing any of the above then you're not getting the most out of your car either. No way to tell for sure tho unless we see a vid of said race.
I dont have any clutch slip but you never know.
You can ask anyone of my friends that are on here i am very impressive with my neon.
ok then... its not a debate on what i can and cant do so u say what u need to and i will live with the facts i have... just to put into perspective my dyno numbers were done in a 90 degree day so my numbers are lower then expected when i raced on a mid 50 degree day.... plus i said without the juice. I have a 50 shot going at it and that was installed after the dyno run was done
Tell your friends.
1) Take their 4 15"s out of their trunks.
2) Take their 5000 watt amp out (250 rms)
3) Pull out all the small children and babies out from under their cars
4) Take a **** before they go out and dont eat that last chicken wing
5) Die
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02-13-2008, 09:12 PM
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Who ever got you this...
needs to return it for this...
Do you every think about how retarded you must sound? Try to learn how to speak the language properly. Also, while your at it please learn how to write it properly.
Here, this could be your first big start.
boi = boy
nice = night
noone= no one
nite = night
tracttion= traction
kno= know
heppen= happen
tha= that
don= don't
That's just your spelling mistakes cheif.
needs to return it for this...
Do you every think about how retarded you must sound? Try to learn how to speak the language properly. Also, while your at it please learn how to write it properly.
Here, this could be your first big start.
boi = boy
nice = night
noone= no one
nite = night
tracttion= traction
kno= know
heppen= happen
tha= that
don= don't
That's just your spelling mistakes cheif.
02-13-2008, 09:12 PM
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^^^^ very easy not knowing the car at all. I used to have a ls1 Gto and decided that it was about time to try turboed car and saw this car near my house preety cheap and fast lol. Well they gave me an awesome deal for the gto more than i paid for and made a sweet deal with the dealer and i dont regret one bit so far. i knew it was moded cuz the big intercooler is hard to miss, sick loud blow off valve, nice exhaust, tein suspension (lowered), wastegate, but that was it. I looked at the turbo and did not know that it was a 50trim until i saw a stock srt4 with a very, very, very small turbo lol.
02-13-2008, 09:32 PM
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^^^^ very easy not knowing the car at all. I used to have a ls1 Gto and decided that it was about time to try turboed car and saw this car near my house preety cheap and fast lol. Well they gave me an awesome deal for the gto more than i paid for and made a sweet deal with the dealer and i dont regret one bit so far. i knew it was moded cuz the big intercooler is hard to miss, sick loud blow off valve, nice exhaust, tein suspension (lowered), wastegate, but that was it. I looked at the turbo and did not know that it was a 50trim until i saw a stock srt4 with a very, very, very small turbo lol.
02-13-2008, 09:34 PM
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03 srt4 have 215hp stock..remember that 04-05 came with "factoy s1" and an lsd to boost the power to 240hp...so its not a surprise a stock 03 srt4 lost to a stock cobalt ss/sc.since the balts are underrated
02-13-2008, 10:46 PM
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Yes, both are. Chrysler and GM both lowballed the number. Instead of taking the rating at the crank, they took it at the wheels like you're supposed to, and in the SRT-4's case, did it when the intercooler was already hot. Not sure how they came up with 205 for the SS S/C, but they must have done it under less-than-ideal conditions because 215 WHP isn't out of the realm of possibility for an SS S/C.
02-14-2008, 03:24 AM
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x1000... Great post. Thanks. Tons of ways to **** up with a decent powered front wheel drive. Once you learn how to drive without wheel hop and know just the right combination between gas peddle and clutch you can be very damn fast out of the whole. On my stock run i pulled like a 2.1 sixty foot with no spinning at all.
I dont have any clutch slip but you never know.
You can ask anyone of my friends that are on here i am very impressive with my neon.
I cant go by dyno numbers at all. I only dynoed mid 260s on my 12.89 run. My hp was not impressive at all.
haha Man i am pry just as old as you are bud. Unless you are hitting 30s.
How do you not know what you have on your car? Thats crazy. There is no way in hell i could buy a car that i dont even know what was done to it.
Yeah give me your friends numbers so i can make fun of them!
Tell your friends.
1) Take their 4 15"s out of their trunks.
2) Take their 5000 watt amp out (250 rms)
3) Pull out all the small children and babies out from under their cars
4) Take a **** before they go out and dont eat that last chicken wing
5) Die
I dont have any clutch slip but you never know.
You can ask anyone of my friends that are on here i am very impressive with my neon.
I cant go by dyno numbers at all. I only dynoed mid 260s on my 12.89 run. My hp was not impressive at all.
haha Man i am pry just as old as you are bud. Unless you are hitting 30s.
How do you not know what you have on your car? Thats crazy. There is no way in hell i could buy a car that i dont even know what was done to it.
Yeah give me your friends numbers so i can make fun of them!
Tell your friends.
1) Take their 4 15"s out of their trunks.
2) Take their 5000 watt amp out (250 rms)
3) Pull out all the small children and babies out from under their cars
4) Take a **** before they go out and dont eat that last chicken wing
5) Die
hahaha, that's funny
That's not good, you might wanna see a doctor about that..
..
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02-14-2008, 11:22 AM
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BUT
THEY BOTH HAVE THE SAME POWER STOCK! Dyno in the 220s. and lsd doesn't add hp.
03s were just as capable of high 13s as were the 04s and 05s.
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02-14-2008, 11:29 AM
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Dang, you guys don't like that he said he beat an SRT-4 eh? Jeez, why can't cobalt and SRT-4 owners get along, if he said he beat it, he beat it, just say good job and move on.
And to whoever said that there is no cobalt that can run a 13...there is probably no Civic Si that can run a 14.0-14.1 stock, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhWttLZ0EmU
And to whoever said that there is no cobalt that can run a 13...there is probably no Civic Si that can run a 14.0-14.1 stock, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhWttLZ0EmU
02-14-2008, 11:32 AM
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Dang, you guys don't like that he said he beat an SRT-4 eh? Jeez, why can't cobalt and SRT-4 owners get along, if he said he beat it, he beat it, just say good job and move on.
And to whoever said that there is no cobalt that can run a 13...there is probably know Civic Si that can run a 14.0-14.1 stock, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhWttLZ0EmU
And to whoever said that there is no cobalt that can run a 13...there is probably know Civic Si that can run a 14.0-14.1 stock, right?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhWttLZ0EmU
hahah Who said there was no cobalt in the 13s? So the old neon still beats the civic Whoop!