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Old 12-05-2008, 09:23 AM
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Can't we all just get along? Jesus its the fbody fanboys vs the cobalt fanboys.
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
I'm a member on there because of my 91 Camaro RS with a 350 swap. A lot of good info there too..

By the way, the Cobalt SS/SC's are the ones with the axle issues, not the SS/TC's. The axles have been upgraded in the new Cobalts.
I'm so sick of the missinformation on this site. The ss/sc doesn't have axle issues. It's called DRIVER ABUSE and WHEEL HOP from people not knowing how to ******* drive. I've already heard of ss/tc owners wheel hopping at the drag strip, so I'm sure that next year when more ss/tc's start hitting the track, we'll here about them snapping axles too. I've had tons of 5Krpms launches on slicks on my car and not one issue. So it's not the car, it's the mother ******* driver.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Yea the extra 50whp my car puts out over a stock LS2 would make no difference.
It doesn't make up for a 500lbs weight difference.

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I'm so sick of the missinformation on this site. The ss/sc doesn't have axle issues. It's called DRIVER ABUSE and WHEEL HOP from people not knowing how to ******* drive. I've already heard of ss/tc owners wheel hopping at the drag strip, so I'm sure that next year when more ss/tc's start hitting the track, we'll here about them snapping axles too. I've had tons of 5Krpms launches on slicks on my car and not one issue. So it's not the car, it's the mother ******* driver.

The same holds true for those who act like the GM 10-bolt shreds gears with stock power and when modded damn look out.

Anti Venoms GT ran 550whp through a stock T-45 with a upgraded input and finally took a **** with 700whp. It was rated to hold about 1/3 of that to start with.

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Old 12-05-2008, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I'm so sick of the missinformation on this site. The ss/sc doesn't have axle issues. It's called DRIVER ABUSE and WHEEL HOP from people not knowing how to ******* drive. I've already heard of ss/tc owners wheel hopping at the drag strip, so I'm sure that next year when more ss/tc's start hitting the track, we'll here about them snapping axles too. I've had tons of 5Krpms launches on slicks on my car and not one issue. So it's not the car, it's the mother ******* driver.
I agree that the wheel hop didn't help, BUT..The axles in the SS/SC's were tappered down hence the axle snapping issues. NOW..The clutch issues were driver error. I put WELL over 30k miles on my 07 SS/SC's clutch with slight slippage when I overheated her once in a great while during the hot ass summer months racing around.
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
It doesn't make up for a 500lbs weight difference.
Hmm my car was 3625 1/4 tank no driver at the same track on the same day a 6spd c6 weighed 3325 I not only killed his trap 112 to 115 but also his ET 12.2 to 12.6
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Hmm my car was 3625 1/4 tank no driver at the same track on the same day a 6spd c6 weighed 3325 I not only killed his trap 112 to 115 but also his ET 12.2 to 12.6
You do realize the more stories you tell the stupider you look, right?

1) Witout weight reduction your car didn't weigh 3625 with a 1/4 tank.
2) If the C6 weighed 3325 it must have been a 3LT with a full tank and golf clubs.
3) LT's and Tune will not give you enough power to trap 115mph even @ 3625lbs.

Stop filling people full of ****.
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
You do realize the more stories you tell the stupider you look, right?

1) Witout weight reduction your car didn't weigh 3625 with a 1/4 tank.
2) If the C6 weighed 3325 it must have been a 3LT with a full tank and golf clubs.
3) LT's and Tune will not give you enough power to trap 115mph even @ 3625lbs.

Stop filling people full of ****.
Look at you, lol. A golf bag lolol

Sorry for whatever oddball preset notions you have but thats what the scale read for both the cars. It was actually a Z51 C6 too.
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I had heard the C6's were a bit heavier then the C5's.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Look at you, lol. A golf bag lolol

Sorry for whatever oddball preset notions you have but thats what the scale read for both the cars. It was actually a Z51 C6 too.
Well since the ZR1 is the heaviest C6 maybe you should do a little math. Also the trim level has much more to do with curb weight than being a Z51 or not on a C6.

Like I said your full of **** and a stock C6 would still walk you.

Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
I had heard the C6's were a bit heavier then the C5's.

My car is a 1LT, Z51 & M6 and is just under 3200lbs the Z06 is a few pounds lighter than mine. The 2LT and 3LT trim options weigh 100-120lbs more than a 1LT depending transmission choice.

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Originally Posted by ralliartist
I don't think the turbo'ed firebird will come close to 12's and I also don't think it will beat the cobalt.
agreed, not making much more then a stock trans am...
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
Well since the ZR1 is the heaviest C6 maybe you should do a little math. Also the trim level has much more to do with curb weight than being a Z51 or not on a C6.

Like I said your full of **** and a stock C6 would still walk you.




My car is a 1LT, Z51 & M6 and is just under 3200lbs the Z06 is a few pounds lighter than mine. The 2LT and 3LT trim options weigh 100-120lbs more than a 1LT depending transmission choice.
Blah Blah Blah, my car makes 50whp more than a stock LS2 C6 and I beat them, deal with it.

You're the kinda guy that I race, beat, and then you wanna fight cause of your perceptual set of what shoulda happend along with your inferiority complex.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Blah Blah Blah, my car makes 50whp more than a stock LS2 C6 and I beat them, deal with it.

You're the kinda guy that I race, beat, and then you wanna fight cause of your perceptual set of what shoulda happend along with your inferiority complex.

Thats because 50hp isn't going to make your boat keep up with a C6 fool.

Like I said you are full of **** and the only place you pull this **** is on forums where some look up to the GTO. The gap between GTO and C6 is much more than 50hp will fill period. You basically have a stock 03/04 Cobra and I walk away from those especially after the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
Thats because 50hp isn't going to make your boat keep up with a C6 fool.

Like I said you are full of **** and the only place you pull this **** is on forums where some look up to the GTO. The gap between GTO and C6 is much more than 50hp will fill period. You basically have a stock 03/04 Cobra and I walk away from those especially after the 1/4.
I kill stock 03 Cobras lol
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I kill stock 03 Cobras lol

Your tug boat GTO with 50whp over a stock LS2 is not "killing" Cobras and would get walked by a stock C6.

I cannot belive someone can be this full of ****.
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
Your tug boat GTO with 50whp over a stock LS2 is not "killing" Cobras and would get walked by a stock C6.

I cannot belive someone can be this full of ****.
I will have to agree with you yet again. Who'da thunk, we went from arguing to agreeing.

He is WELL known for talking trash, I wouldn't let it get to you.
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on dr.s and a dynotune by Brian Herter from pcms4less, cai and catback my bud Richards 06 GTO runs consistant 12.70s @ 109-110 its an automatic with 40,000 miles...runs strong..richards about 250lbs
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
I will have to agree with you yet again. Who'da thunk, we went from arguing to agreeing.

He is WELL known for talking trash, I wouldn't let it get to you.

I know I have dealt with this bullshitter on many forums, funny thing is he never makes these claims on GTO or LS2 forums because he knows they will laugh at him.

I think maybe he should take some time and read up on what times cammed GTO's run because then he will see how stupid he really looks. My stock C6 would run circles around a LT and Tune only GTO. I just get a good laugh that he thinks 50whp in a GTO makes over a second and 6mph difference in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by LS2guy
I know I have dealt with this bullshitter on many forums, funny thing is he never makes these claims on GTO or LS2 forums because he knows they will laugh at him.

I think maybe he should take some time and read up on what times cammed GTO's run because then he will see how stupid he really looks. My stock C6 would run circles around a LT and Tune only GTO. I just get a good laugh that he thinks 50whp in a GTO makes over a second and 6mph difference in the 1/4.
I will say this..Depending on the mod combos and the driver, there IS potential. I have a buddy out here with an 04 that has a baby cam running 12.2's.. Ok, he has hit 12.2, but that is his PB, it's not a consistent time though.
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
I will have to agree with you yet again. Who'da thunk, we went from arguing to agreeing.

He is WELL known for talking trash, I wouldn't let it get to you.
Also WELL known for backing it up
Ask any of the 3 or 4 people on this forum who've come across me

And as for the GTO forum comment. I'm on the list man, there were about 10 people from LS2gto.com out there to watch me hit 12.5 @ 112 with JUST dr's and a catback. Now add 40whp to that! ahhaha
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I kill stock 03 Cobras lol


also the firebird will be faster than the cobalt

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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
Also WELL known for backing it up
Ask any of the 3 or 4 people on this forum who've come across me

And as for the GTO forum comment. I'm on the list man, there were about 10 people from LS2gto.com out there to watch me hit 12.5 @ 112 with JUST dr's and a catback. Now add 40whp to that! ahhaha
Shame we are so far away...I'd run ya with my brick on wheels. Only SLP exhaust, and head/cam done.
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Originally Posted by 1gmfanatik
Shame we are so far away...I'd run ya with my brick on wheels. Only SLP exhaust, and head/cam done.
I used to frequent NJ for GTO shows. However I've since stopped going because it seems like 75% of the people are retards. Just look on streetfire for all the ******* videos of people burning out, losing control, and crashing into oncoming traffic leaving the show.

If you're talking about heads/cam on a TBSS then I would assume around 450-460whp depending on the setup and probably a good race from a dig. I'm not sure about the highway, took my buddies a lil over 500whp to get me from a roll.
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Originally Posted by SLoW SHO
I used to frequent NJ for GTO shows. However I've since stopped going because it seems like 75% of the people are retards. Just look on streetfire for all the ******* videos of people burning out, losing control, and crashing into oncoming traffic leaving the show.

You have heads/cam on a what?
Depending on where in NJ you go. Then again, there are gonna be morons like that anywhere you go, especially once you involve the import gang it seems.

RWD TBSS...
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That kills me when I see that vidoe...also saw a s/c cobra do the same thing, but did'nt drive away...smooshed.


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