TVS vs WS6.. no vids.. short
04-28-2012, 10:14 AM
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As far as a stock lsj beating a stock ls1, not happening. I raced Bikas stage 2 cobalt when my camaro was stock and it was dead even.
04-28-2012, 10:37 AM
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My post was in reference to the other guy saying if you beat him Pretty good he was probably stock(talking to the op who has a fairly aggressive tvs setup).... Pointing out that it doesn't take much to beat a stock ls1. A tvs Balt Such as the op's would put a stock ls1 to shame. It wasn't meant to be some great accomplishment
04-28-2012, 11:25 AM
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Sorry but even an auto ls1 with 2.73 gearing will not lose in the 1/8 or 1/4 to a stock lsj car. And from a roll if the ls downshifts the auto and gets it in the right gear before the race starts and doesn't just floor it. The lsj will still lose plain and simple.
04-28-2012, 01:15 PM
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99 times out of 100 a stock ls1 will beat an lsj. I could see the arguement getting closer with an lnf but i've still lost pretty badly with my stock lnf vs my friends 02 firehawk with only a catback. He trapped 108 on the same day I trapped 102. From a 20-40-60-120 roll the ls1 vehicles are faster.
04-28-2012, 01:37 PM
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I can see a strong running stock lnf giving a sick auto 2.73 ls1 car one hell of a run. But yeah not an lsj.
I would go out and prove it. But with my camaro's boltons theres no point in even trying to race an lsj.
I would go out and prove it. But with my camaro's boltons theres no point in even trying to race an lsj.
please tell me you are joking
04-28-2012, 04:10 PM
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Nope. Lets just say my 49lb injectors are max'd and my fuel pumps max'd. And that my tax return check is paying for new heads cam intake 120lb injectors and a dual fuel pump setup.
But for now Im not too worried about turbo or tvs lsj's. Especially from a dig!
But for now Im not too worried about turbo or tvs lsj's. Especially from a dig!
04-28-2012, 05:05 PM
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here is my thinking. most bolt ls1's put down less than 350whp.. I personally have put down 340whp when I had the tvs and my car weighs 2806 (2005 ss) and what I found when I looked up an A4 98 z28 was 3439lbs. thats more than 600lbs with close to the same power. I understand power to weight isn't everything but thats a lot of extra weight.
04-28-2012, 05:10 PM
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here is my thinking. most bolt ls1's put down less than 350whp.. I personally have put down 340whp when I had the tvs and my car weighs 2806 (2005 ss) and what I found when I looked up an A4 98 z28 was 3439lbs. thats more than 600lbs with close to the same power. I understand power to weight isn't everything but thats a lot of extra weight.
Too bad you dont live closer. Id be curious to see how id pull on a balt like you before the new parts go on.
04-28-2012, 05:15 PM
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I'm no longer on the tvs, now Im on a lysholm 1.6, no power numbers yet. what are you putting down for power? or what should you be? I have raced plenty of ls1's and I just don't see any bolt on ls1 beating me. this leads me to think you must have something you are trying to keep a secret... spill
04-28-2012, 05:17 PM
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A dig shows who the better driver is.. lots of people can take a ls1 from a dig as they rip tires apart after idle. It takes some skills to launch a cobalt ss and camaro. 3rd gear in an auto camaro blows, third gear in a m3 just shreds.
From the videos if you trifecta tuned you could get by them. See how the auto raped you every time and the manual struggled off the line... driver skill. yet it was reversed in roll races.
kiddies... a stock lsj is as fast as a civic. I used to roll race lsj's in my m6 camaro just for the lolz on their face as I smoked the tires in second, then smoked them in third. I did get beaten by a lsj with all the goodies stage three tuned all bolt onts etc. From a roll he was fasttt but from a dig he could never keep up. that 3.85 whatever first gear is so useless. He was a good driver and a chill guy, we ripped around together having fun for a good half hour after that.
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04-28-2012, 05:22 PM
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I'm no longer on the tvs, now Im on a lysholm 1.6, no power numbers yet. what are you putting down for power? or what should you be? I have raced plenty of ls1's and I just don't see any bolt on ls1 beating me. this leads me to think you must have something you are trying to keep a secret... spill
But like I said max'd out 49lb injectors.
But will let you in on some of the new setup it kind of tells you what the current setup may of been.
Lq9 shortblock,arp rod bolts, PRC stage 1 ls3 heads, Fast 102 intake, Speed incorporated tu2 cam,120lb hr injectors, dual 255lph fuel pumps and a few other odds and ends.
04-28-2012, 05:30 PM
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stall gears no nitrous and boltons
But like I said max'd out 49lb injectors.
But will let you in on some of the new setup it kind of tells you what the current setup may of been.
Lq9 shortblock,arp rod bolts, PRC stage 1 ls3 heads, Fast 102 intake, Speed incorporated tu2 cam,120lb hr injectors, dual 255lph fuel pumps and a few other odds and ends.
But like I said max'd out 49lb injectors.
But will let you in on some of the new setup it kind of tells you what the current setup may of been.
Lq9 shortblock,arp rod bolts, PRC stage 1 ls3 heads, Fast 102 intake, Speed incorporated tu2 cam,120lb hr injectors, dual 255lph fuel pumps and a few other odds and ends.
that's gonna get sideways
04-28-2012, 05:32 PM
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stall gears no nitrous and boltons
But like I said max'd out 49lb injectors.
But will let you in on some of the new setup it kind of tells you what the current setup may of been.
Lq9 shortblock,arp rod bolts, PRC stage 1 ls3 heads, Fast 102 intake, Speed incorporated tu2 cam,120lb hr injectors, dual 255lph fuel pumps and a few other odds and ends.
But like I said max'd out 49lb injectors.
But will let you in on some of the new setup it kind of tells you what the current setup may of been.
Lq9 shortblock,arp rod bolts, PRC stage 1 ls3 heads, Fast 102 intake, Speed incorporated tu2 cam,120lb hr injectors, dual 255lph fuel pumps and a few other odds and ends.
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