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Old 04-28-2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
It just has some help breathing thats all
Such as lol
Old 04-28-2012, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
noone cares
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:51 PM
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ya i mean really omg my camaro is so fast but i'm going to be vague with my descriptions so noone can call bs with any actual facts, supa secret modz yo
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Some people just can't handle seeing cobalts work an ls1..
Old 04-28-2012, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
ya i mean really omg my camaro is so fast but i'm going to be vague with my descriptions so noone can call bs with any actual facts, supa secret modz yo
Just dont need it out there. But I posted 75% of the setup that I will be running later this summer. Not sure what theres to call bs on. I mean if you guys do the math you can figure out my power level from the 49lb injectors being max'd out. And theres a ton of faster guys than me but I run well for whats done. My whole point in all of it was that often times an ls1 is under rated as was said on this site way too often.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
Just dont need it out there. But I posted 75% of the setup that I will be running later this summer. Not sure what theres to call bs on. I mean if you guys do the math you can figure out my power level from the 49lb injectors being max'd out. And theres a ton of faster guys than me but I run well for whats done. My whole point in all of it was that often times an ls1 is under rated as was said on this site way too often.
Yeah well in 4 years, i'll be turbo swapped and be making like 1500whp.... that's only 76% of what will be done though...
Old 04-28-2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TStone
Yeah well in 4 years, i'll be turbo swapped and be making like 1500whp.... that's only 76% of what will be done though...


Nice.
Old 04-28-2012, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC


Nice.
Hopefully I can get my 400lb injectors because my IDC's are at like 98% on these 250lb'ers
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Ok let me make this simple. And if anyone knows the math should notice the bsfc it will tell you whats done to the car...

Here's the math,
(Projected hp X .6) / 6.4 = min injector size to meet 80% duty cycle
So,
620hp - 15% drivetrain lose = 527rwhp

527rwhp x .6 = 316 / 6.4 = 49lb injectors


and btw anything over 80% isnt recommended going static on an injector is a bad idea. Yes I get that you are just being stupid.
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lmao

you're not 500hp with stock motor heads and cam unless you have boost and even still

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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
lmao

you're not 500hp with stock motor heads and cam unless you have boost and even still
Care to do the math to prove me wrong?
Right now the only limiting factors with that hp level are the valve springs fuel pump and injectors which if you paid attention I said those parts are max'd.

btw the car also has 3.73 gearing and a vig 3600 rpm stall.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
Care to do the math to prove me wrong?
Right now the only limiting factors with that hp level are the valve springs fuel pump and injectors which if you paid attention I said those parts are max'd.

btw the car also has 3.73 gearing and a vig 3600 rpm stall.
lets see the dyno sheet mr ricer math

oh, that's right, you don't have one, cause you don't have 527hp with "bolt ons"

continue to enthrall me with this ls1 godliness though really
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
lets see the dyno sheet mr ricer math

oh, that's right, you don't have one, cause you don't have 527hp with "bolt ons"

continue to enthrall me with this ls1 godliness though really
Have the logs stored on the work laptop showing injector duty cycle etc... Dyno no point since the combo is coming out. But prove to me how its ricer math?

Ricer math is "I bet a 400whp car so I have 425whp"

btw I never claimed 527whp. I simply said the injectors and fuel pump are max'd. Reading comprehension isnt one of your strong suits is it?
Upset because all that hard work in your ion and you couldnt hang with me from a dig or a roll? Sad thing I bet I have less in my car money wise.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
Have the logs stored on the work laptop showing injector duty cycle etc... Dyno no point since the combo is coming out. But prove to me how its ricer math?

Ricer math is "I bet a 400whp car so I have 425whp"

btw I never claimed 527whp. I simply said the injectors and fuel pump are max'd. Reading comprehension isnt one of your strong suits is it?
Really? Cause it sure sounded like you did, lets go back and revisit this.

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Nope. Lets just say my 49lb injectors are max'd
Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
Here's the math,
(Projected hp X .6) / 6.4 = min injector size to meet 80% duty cycle
So,
620hp - 15% drivetrain lose = 527rwhp

527rwhp x .6 = 316 / 6.4 = 49lb injectors

Sure looks to me that that is what was being suggested.
You are pretty dense kid. Go play with some mustang gt's, make yourself feel good with all of that 350hp of v8.

Lol and keep editing your posts with attempted personal jabs it's hilarious you'd get scraped by a piece of **** saturn.
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
Really? Cause it sure sounded like you did, lets go back and revisit this.






Sure looks to me that that is what was being suggested.
You are pretty dense kid. Go play with some mustang gt's, make yourself feel good with all of that 350hp of v8.

Lol and keep editing your posts with attempted personal jabs it's hilarious you'd get scraped.
Kid is also a jab albeit a weak one and I havent been a kid in a good while. Also I posted up the math of injectors running at 80% what they would be around power wise. And mustang gt's? can your redline even take those out? Got any better material? you sound like the little punk kid who put a turbo on his civic and walked over to the big boys at the local meets.

Want to talk **** go for it. Otherwise late this summer I will meet you half way and and run them.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC
Kid is also a jab albeit a weak one and I havent been a kid in a good while. Also I posted up the math of injectors running at 80% what they would be around power wise. And mustang gt's? can your redline even take those out? Got any better material? you sound like the little punk kid who put a turbo on his civic and walked over to the big boys at the local meets.

Want to talk **** go for it. Otherwise late this summer I will meet you half way and and run them.
ohhhhhh tough guy lets meet halfway
how about you just go to the track as i'll be doing and let us see this crazy ls1 zomg!!! lmfao. don't be mad your **** is beat.
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Originally Posted by 05Slowline
ohhhhhh tough guy lets meet halfway
how about you just go to the track as i'll be doing and let us see this crazy ls1 zomg!!! lmfao. don't be mad your **** is beat.
beat by what? do you have another car? Because that cute baby turbo s252 isnt going to do it. This car will hit the track once the lq9 is in so i will gladly run the car down the track at that point. But your cute baby turbo doesnt have enough to keep up with the current setup muchless that one. And it wasnt being a tough guy it was offering to simple prove whose faster. Non of this juvenile bickering. Just putting money down and running them. I mean you can afford it right Mr.Big?

Never said my car is crazy but I will gladly run a turbo lsj. Hell once the combo is in theres a pretty cool guy around here that has a turbo lsj might track him down and see if he wants to run for fun.
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you guys are quite funny. im tvs and unless a TC has a turbo upgrade he isnt pulling me. And as far as a bolt on LS1 making over 500 thats an epic joke of the day
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Originally Posted by zrated89
you guys are quite funny. im tvs and unless a TC has a turbo upgrade he isnt pulling me. And as far as a bolt on LS1 making over 500 thats an epic joke of the day


Im leaving it open to imagination. Obviously theres a bit more done. And if a person stops and looks at the bfsc they can tell exactly what work is done.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC


Im leaving it open to imagination. Obviously theres a bit more done. And if a person stops and looks at the bfsc they can tell exactly what work is done.
Turbo
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lq9 is only 400hp stock... so you lsj kids need to go beg your mom for more upgrades... Pulling on a stock lnf omgzzzzz that's hardcore powerz.

I bought my cobalt to go around a corner, not drag race. If you bought a cobalt to make it fast in a straight line.. well you are just silly.
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ps a lq9 is basically a cast iron ls3, but that means nothing to a cobalt owner
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Originally Posted by m33pm33p
ps a lq9 is basically a cast iron ls2, but that means nothing to a cobalt owner

Corrected you a bit but no big difference really.
Lq4 and Lq9 are basically iron block ls2's with the lq9 having a bump in compression and an anti wear coating on the pistons.
I will be loosening up the ring gap and running ls3 heads with a fast 102mm fast intake with a speed incorporated tu2 cam and it will be fueled by 120lb hr injectors with dual 255 pumps.

I love my cobalt its been a great and fun car. But its not a good platform for the kind of racing that I bought the camaro for. And my camaro with that lq will never handle as well as my cobalt.

thats why I have both.
Camaro = fast in a straight line but still a bit of fun in the twisties
Cobalt = slow but a lot of fun in the twisties and able to give some cars a good run on the backroads!

But im realistic.
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its good to be on both sides of the car fence, that way you can enjoy both aspects to a good point. Boy do I miss having the camaro... would push you back so hard you almost couldn't reach the stereo in the first three gears.
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Originally Posted by CordiaDOHC

Corrected you a bit but no big difference really.
Lq4 and Lq9 are basically iron block ls2's with the lq9 having a bump in compression and an anti wear coating on the pistons.
I will be loosening up the ring gap and running ls3 heads with a fast 102mm fast intake with a speed incorporated tu2 cam and it will be fueled by 120lb hr injectors with dual 255 pumps.


But im realistic.
I always get mixed up with the lq's. A lot of 4x4 guys near me ****** them up for their rigs and run ls3 heads. Making zr1 power na on them. God they sound nice too.


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