Jackalope

The dark side of the moon. Whats worse is people ACTUALY believe him.

1BADSS/SC

I dont understand. I feel like pulling my hair out from the stupidity of some people on here....

Jackalope

Like I said before tho YES a Cobalt could beat an M6 but I think you'd need a few more mods. And then which car wuld you really rather have? or which one has a higher "ASS FACTOR" meaning which car will get you more ass.

1BADSS/SC

and LNF would only take one with a ******* turbo upgrade. No bolt on LNF is going to take one. No way in hell that turbo is going to net a 121 mph trap. Thats rediculous power netting that high of a trap stock.

no "STOCK WITH TUNE ONLY!" nuthugger lnf is going to win from a roll or a dig. There is no way. A turbo upgraded LSJ, yes. A turbo upgraded LNF, I would think so. A stock turbo LNF, no ******* way.

why am I telling u this? U already know this

Deathscythe

so do you think a 330 whp equipped lsj can't hang with or beat a challenger srt8?

1BADSS/SC

the lsj should crush it? why?

Deathscythe

what's the weight difference between that and an m6?

Jackalope

The SRT8 what? Cause some of them are over 4000 pounds. And they have only what 425hp? The M6 wieghs less and has 500 hp.

Hell I can compete with the SRT8 cars but I know I'll get my ass handed to me by an M6!

Deathscythe

even in it's normal state? If you have a gt then yeah, but a gxp would be able to handle the p400 for the most part.

Jackalope

The GXP is a high 12 car stock. My GT is a low 13 car stock. Even in its p400 state it still has 400hp vs my 370hp and it weighs less. My car crushes the scales at 4050!

But gimme a 5 series and I'll **** him up! Been there and done that! NO not an M5 just a 5 series.

Deathscythe

so you are at a slight disadvantage. He doesn't have the power exactly, but has half a ton less the weight you do.

06G85

iTrader: (4)

You're right lol ..this guy is nuts.

Nismothecat

i believe it. i was behind an M5 a few months ago at a light we both pulled away fast and gunned it(i know he did cuz i could see the car squat and a tiny puff of smoke out of the exhaust). he pulled a car and a half on me and stayed that way till 110. then we hit a light. i would have tried again but he made a left at the last second. i have an MS3 with just an intake.

so a tuned SS could probably do that. ive also heard that there is a button you can press on those cars that gives it full power. i heard its 400hp normally and if you hit the performance button you get 500hp. but thats just something i heard or read. not sure if its true. if its true and if they only had 400hp then i could see it being very true.

Deathscythe

it is true, and that's the reason why this is possible. Some don't want to believe, but like I keep saying, numbers don't lie.

SLoW SHO

Idk about that... On the G8 boards people go nuts if they run 13.4's

1BADSS/SC

power/weight ratio doesnt take into account gearing. Power/weight ratio doesnt atke into account other factors either, thats why its a POOR basis for comparison.

For example, lets take a 300 whp LSJ vs a 300 whp LNF. In theory, they should be almost equal in speed. HOWEVER we all know the LSJ will smoke the LNF at the same power level.

This is just one example of why power/weight ratio are extremely poor basises for comparison. A tuned fully bolted LNF can run high 12's @ ~113 mph. A stock M6 can run mid to low 12's at 120+ mph. The trap and the times just show even a fully bolted LNF will NOT beat a stock M6 from a dig or a roll. Its not happening.

the quarter mile times show how much power a car is really making, and how well it launches. Even with a shitty launch, the trap still shows how much power the car is making when traction comes.

Deathscythe

you make it sound like gearing is going to make up for an 1100 lb difference in weight when the power to the ground from both vehicles is similar. Between these two vehicles your comparison doesn't make any sense. Gearing has almost nothing to do with this because of the vast differences between the two. The only real comparisons that can be made with this matchup is power output and curb weight which I did. Don't get me wrong, I understand you fully, but that doesn't apply here. What you referred to is a match where all variables are equal. This one the op stated obviously isn't.

Everyone is hung up on the fact that he ran in m mode when the op doesn't even know. The only way this makes sense is that he didn't. And if he didn't, that m6 wouldn't be running 12's in the 1/4 and trapping so high, since the normal setting is 105 hp less. That's all there is to it.

04YellowGT

The hp/lb factor is a bunch of ****. At the end of the day a 500hp car is going to move out especially from a roll . The biggest thing your forgetting is that after a object is moving weight plays less of a factor.

The Cobalt SS weighs 2975 and a GT500 weighs 3950.

Even if he is making 300fwhp he still isn't hanging with a Shelby so whats your excues for that?

ralliartist

this thread is hilarious. I saw a thread just like this on fbodyeurope the other day. A guy with a c6 z06 with a few bolt ons ended up running a stock m6 on the autobahn. He said the m6 stayed just a few cars back all the way up to 160 from about a 80mph roll.

Only difference, his was believable.

2MCHBoost

What owners on this forum have ran those times?

Deathscythe

And once again, you're another person that doesn't bother to read what you quote. I'm not talking about him beating a 500 hp car, I'm talking about a 395hp car getting beat by a 300whp car that weighs a half-ton less.

Since we're talking about 500hp cars, riddle me this one. Why is the 505hp z06 just as fast to 60 and in the 1/4 mile as the srt-10? The srt-10 has 600hp, so why are they so close? There's a 250 lb difference between the two, with the viper being the heavier of the two. And why is the gt500 1/4 mile time a whole second slower than both even though the gearing is shorter to help with acceleration? It weighs 550lb more than the viper does and 800lb more than a z06.

Don't try to convince me that weight doesn't matter.

MaxVQ35DE

ATTENTION:

Put your sport compact crackpipes down, I dont want to hear any more "I beat a supercar in my 13 second FWD car"

I dont want to hear about partial throttle C6's, V8 m3's, V10 M5s and M6's, Gallardos, Ultimas, Skylines, terminator cobras, GT500s chipped 335is i just dont want to hear it.... ITS BULLSHIT

Force

revhigh18 went 12.750 @ 113mph with a tune and light bolt-ons on street tires in his LNF.

LittleMT

really? that is a sweet time/trap...

Sarvoth

Wait..

Terminators and GT500s aren't supercars.

That's all.