Wrx(ej255) vs evo x
09-11-2012, 02:53 PM
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09-11-2012, 06:57 PM
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As you can see its pretty close. The evo x is listed at around 300bhp & the wrx at around 265bhp. That isn't a 35hp race, the margin would be much bigger. I've been hearing that the wrx's are underrated. From a dig the margin is pretty much the same.
My bro & I sat and compare the two cars. As you can see, the evos turbo spools quicker than the wrx, he also has a higher rev limiter @7200 compared to the wrx 6500. Neither of us take it to redline, he said he takes his to about 6900-7000 & I take mine to about 6200-6300.
My bro & I sat and compare the two cars. As you can see, the evos turbo spools quicker than the wrx, he also has a higher rev limiter @7200 compared to the wrx 6500. Neither of us take it to redline, he said he takes his to about 6900-7000 & I take mine to about 6200-6300.
09-11-2012, 07:27 PM
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I'm not a huge fan of the new evo x. I would rather get a evo 8 or 9 for half the price. I just think they look better too. The new Subaru wrx is nice my buddy just got a 2012 and he beat me by a car and a half but im stock.
09-11-2012, 08:49 PM
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It's a good deal if you want one. 17000 is a damn good deal for a evo 8 or 9 when the new one is 30-40k. I guess it really depends on the person and how much someone is willing to pay.
12-22-2012, 11:07 AM
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Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2291742
A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff
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12-22-2012, 11:30 AM
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Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2291742
A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff
12-22-2012, 12:43 PM
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Actually you're wrong about the wrx's. the 08+ wrx's and sti's have the same turbos, just different flanges. The efficiency of the two are the same. They put down identical numbers. That post was a brief stage 2 which is an intake turbo back and an OTS tune. 339AWHP > 339 FWHP. That's at least a 12.7 pass in a quarter mile with bolt ons only.
And how is 339 awhp > 339 fwhp? Thats makes no sense at all.
12-22-2012, 01:15 PM
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Actually you're wrong about the wrx's. the 08+ wrx's and sti's have the same turbos, just different flanges. The efficiency of the two are the same. They put down identical numbers. That post was a brief stage 2 which is an intake turbo back and an OTS tune. 339AWHP > 339 FWHP. That's at least a 12.7 pass in a quarter mile with bolt ons only.
12-22-2012, 01:16 PM
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Sti's have too small of a turbo and too much dt loss to make that power on the stock turbo.
Dyno Tune - 2012 STi Stage 2 - COBB AccessPort - NASIOC
A wrx is not going to make anywhere near 400 on stock stuff
12-22-2012, 01:40 PM
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All the sti turbos (04-06) vf39, (07) vf43, (08-13) vf48 are the same turbo. The wrx came with a tdo4 (02-08) then in 09 they switched to the vf52 which is a very good turbo. Not the same turbo as the sti but a way better than the tdo4.
Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
12-22-2012, 01:44 PM
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As for 339AWHP > 339FWHP, we both know that if an awd vehicle has the same whp as an fwd that awd vehicle has more bhp. On a track 8/10 the awd vehicle would pull a better time; the fwd car would pull a better trap. We all know its hard for fwd to get off the line, thus making awd > fwd.
I'm not gonna argue tho. You either like the vid or you don't. That's what the thread is about.
12-22-2012, 01:46 PM
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All the sti turbos (04-06) vf39, (07) vf43, (08-13) vf48 are the same turbo. The wrx came with a tdo4 (02-08) then in 09 they switched to the vf52 which is a very good turbo. Not the same turbo as the sti but a way better than the tdo4.
Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
Really the biggest deal breaker between the two is the 6 speed tranny compared to the 5 speed. Although the 5 speeds are holding up better since 09ish they still blow often at 300ish plus. Not to many issues with the sti 6 speed.
12-22-2012, 01:53 PM
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Besides, of rwd, fwd, awd, I've owned all three and I must say awd is the most fun. So regardless of power; which is faster or slower, awd cars are extremely fun.
12-22-2012, 02:31 PM
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You're right it's no where near 400. My point is its bolt ons that got it to that point. This is with an OTS tune. You can get a few more ponies with a protune and other things.
As for 339AWHP > 339FWHP, we both know that if an awd vehicle has the same whp as an fwd that awd vehicle has more bhp. On a track 8/10 the awd vehicle would pull a better time; the fwd car would pull a better trap. We all know its hard for fwd to get off the line, thus making awd > fwd.
I'm not gonna argue tho. You either like the vid or you don't. That's what the thread is about.
As for 339AWHP > 339FWHP, we both know that if an awd vehicle has the same whp as an fwd that awd vehicle has more bhp. On a track 8/10 the awd vehicle would pull a better time; the fwd car would pull a better trap. We all know its hard for fwd to get off the line, thus making awd > fwd.
I'm not gonna argue tho. You either like the vid or you don't. That's what the thread is about.
And 339 hp is 339 hp. Its a measurement of power, numbers. If the numbers are the same its relative. When did the different dt platforms come into play? If you want to play that game theoretically a 339 fwd car will pull a 339 awd car from a roll. Why? Because the fwd car will 8/10 weigh less than an awd car.
So if the fwd car is faster from a roll, and the awd car is faster from a dig, what 339 hp numbers are better then? See how what u said makes no sense.
12-22-2012, 02:48 PM
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The kid said bolt ons and cobb made 400 whp. I said thats bs an wrx and sti both cant make that power on stock turbo even with bolt ons.
And 339 hp is 339 hp. Its a measurement of power, numbers. If the numbers are the same its relative. When did the different dt platforms come into play? If you want to play that game theoretically a 339 fwd car will pull a 339 awd car from a roll. Why? Because the fwd car will 8/10 weigh less than an awd car.
So if the fwd car is faster from a roll, and the awd car is faster from a dig, what 339 hp numbers are better then? See how what u said makes no sense.
And 339 hp is 339 hp. Its a measurement of power, numbers. If the numbers are the same its relative. When did the different dt platforms come into play? If you want to play that game theoretically a 339 fwd car will pull a 339 awd car from a roll. Why? Because the fwd car will 8/10 weigh less than an awd car.
So if the fwd car is faster from a roll, and the awd car is faster from a dig, what 339 hp numbers are better then? See how what u said makes no sense.
The 339 from a standstill (dig) is better. That's how real races start.