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Old 08-09-2007, 03:29 PM
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hiya mt!

get that mcss in the 12's yet?

if not, i know of a couple things that would help

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Old 08-09-2007, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Area47
hiya mt!

get that mcss in the 12's yet?

if not, i know of a couple things that would help



such as a 100shot.... 'wet'......!
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:41 PM
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I am still aquiring parts for my APS TT install....

I will throw it on the stock engine and make some power, but future plans are for a built stroker and a built tranny...

If we could triple the HP on a SRT, we'll see what we can do here, as I like to run 'big boost'.....

LSX block + 408 stroker kit (8.5:1 compression) + twin turbos (large I'm sure, lol) and you'll be on your way to some crazy power. I'd be hessitant to go with a bigger bore (beyond 4.030"), as that's not going to leave a lot of material between cylinders and you'll have issues finding a piston that will give you lower enough compression. Of course, you probably already know all that.... lol.

I guess I'm just voicing what I WISH I could do.......
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an AWESOME 60' is a 1.2
WHAT???

Your trying to tell me a car you can still use on the street is capable of a 1.2 60'???

A top fuel dragster that does the quartermile time in 4.5 seconds @ 300+ mph BARELY breaks 0.9 60' time.

I think you are over exaggerating just a smidge.

Look at the NHRA 60' times...a 1.2 is from the cars doing well over 200 mph in the QM.

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Old 08-09-2007, 03:48 PM
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Your trying to tell me a car you can still use on the street.
First off, I wasn't saying cars I'd RECOMMEND driving on the street. Second, I said it was an AWESOME 60' time. There are plenty of Mustangs and F-body's that are streetable (if barely) that run those types of times. Heck, there's a Twin Turbo 455 Firebird out there putting out 2450 horses at the crank that the guy drives to work every day, and there are more 1000-1200 horse cars out there running 1.3's than I could possibly keep up with. Just because you have a high stall and a transbrake doesn't mean you can't drive the car on the highway.
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how good are the auto trannies in the 06 GTO ??? good as in how much horsepower could you push to the wheels without having problems
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
how good are the auto trannies in the 06 GTO ??? good as in how much horsepower could you push to the wheels without having problems


It seems to be hit or miss...

there are some GTO's running 10's on the stock Auto...

While others are seeing failures stock....

I still have the stock tranny in my 637hp SRT...

I'll run the GTO auto till failure..... And I'll throw big power at it...
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
how good are the auto trannies in the 06 GTO ??? good as in how much horsepower could you push to the wheels without having problems
http://www.tciauto.com/

Go TCI, or you modify at your own risk, lol.
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Red2.4SS/SC
how good are the auto trannies in the 06 GTO ??? good as in how much horsepower could you push to the wheels without having problems
http://ls2gto.com/forums/showthread....4+transmission

That may be able to help you out a bit.

Are you a member? If not, become one. There are some very knowledgable people over there who will help you out.
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Old 08-09-2007, 04:26 PM
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First off, I wasn't saying cars I'd RECOMMEND driving on the street. Second, I said it was an AWESOME 60' time. There are plenty of Mustangs and F-body's that are streetable (if barely) that run those types of times. Heck, there's a Twin Turbo 455 Firebird out there putting out 2450 horses at the crank that the guy drives to work every day, and there are more 1000-1200 horse cars out there running 1.3's than I could possibly keep up with. Just because you have a high stall and a transbrake doesn't mean you can't drive the car on the highway.
whew...man you scared me for a second...I thought you were trying to tell cobalt443 that those 10's GTO's should be getting 1.2 60' times...I was like...Wait hold up there pilgrim

2450 horse and it's street legal? My ass. Just because he drives it to work don't make it street legal. Not sure how he meets noise levels or emissions standards. Not to mention he must be burning an awful lot of alcohol as there ain't anyway your getting 2500 hp out of pump gas unless your spraying 1500hp worth of nitrous. Twin turbo set up or not. If he's getting that much HP from pump gas he needs to be building motors for John Force. The most HP I have seen or heard of on pump gas was 1800 and that was on a 800 Cubic Inch Donovan block running a lot of nitrous.

OK EDIT!!

I called my buddy who builds top fuel motors...you know the 6000+ HP motors.

And well...He concured...2500hp on pump gas...aint happening and a 2500 hp alcohal car would never be streetable as it would over heat before he made it 10 miles.

As far as 1000 HP cars running 1.3's? So you are saying a top fuely running 5000+ more HP is only getting .4 second faster 60' times?????

I would never call BS because I'm not there...but it certainly sounds a little sketchy man.

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Old 08-09-2007, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleMT
such as a 100shot.... 'wet'......!
lol

could be!

or some tires, and a 120 shot
hehehhee
i have some other idea's too
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Originally Posted by FNFAST
And well...He concured...2500hp on pump gas...aint happening and a 2500 hp alcohal car would never be streetable as it would over heat before he made it 10 miles.

As far as 1000 HP cars running 1.3's? So you are saying a top fuely running 5000+ more HP is only getting .4 second faster 60' times?????

I would never call BS because I'm not there...but it certainly sounds a little sketchy man.
The car was featured in High Performance Pontiac in 2004. Runs on 93 Octane but the build was based around 110 and did have a two stage nitrous feed, though I don't know the specifics. Cost to build was somewhere near $500k. I never said anything about pump gas, either, and you'd be stupid to build a turbo motor and not have a good boost control system so you could do that sort of thing. The block was completely custom with siamesed liners (each bank machined out of one piece of billet) pressed into place and then secured by multiple places on both the top and bottom end and it was machined for complete o-ringing. The shop estimated the rods would need to be replaced every 30k miles if driven on the street tune, IIRC.

I find it funny how people never question the Supra's 3.0L and (usually) 1400 horses and yet the do question that an engine more than double it's size could put out 55% more power??!?!?!?!

I didn't expect to see last gen GTO's get 1.5's, let alone lower. My whole point was that their rear suspension isn't setup well for low times.

Drag racing, like most things, isn't a linear equation, It takes nearly double to run 10's as it does to run 11's, for instance. So, YES, .4 might seem like a small amount of time, but it is 30% quicker. Look at what speed does in the quarter as times drop, surely it's far, far from linear.

Thing about the fact that the turbo ecotec funny cars (RWD) are putting out 1450 horse and running 6's, while 6000 horse engines are running 4's. 4x the power, yet only 50% faster in the quarter...
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FNFAST
I agree. I did go over to the GTO forums quick...from what I saw 12.7 was the fastest stock time for an LS2 and a 13.1 was fastest stock time for LS1.

12.7 off the show room in a 3800lb IRS car...whew...all I have to say is....

Thats moving pretty damn good.
What was the trap speed on that 12.7 run?
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:05 PM
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siamesed liners
I once dated a siamesed liner

kidding..I hear ya..like I said I wasn't calling BS on you man...who am I to do that. Just never heard of anything like that and threw it out there

It's all good. Thanks for answering...especially in a cool fashion like you did.


What was the trap speed on that 12.7 run?
Crap I would have to look hold on....


I believe it was 110.


Here is a great read for you GTO and non GTO lovers alike.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...c_gto_feature/
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jackalope
Lets see the kiddies who think the SS/SC is thee fastest car GM EVER made get upset start the name calling, the GTO guys go full in and then it turns into a flame war with no way to stop it but to lock it.
your kidding right....people actually think the ss/sc is the fastest car gm ever built....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:53 PM
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your kidding right....people actually think the ss/sc is the fastest car gm ever built....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

No, but you have some fanbois. Like the one that tried to state that the Cobalt is the top of the performance food chain for GM.
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Originally Posted by kingg5
your kidding right....people actually think the ss/sc is the fastest car gm ever built....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
the cobalt is the most undeniably fast car ever. not even a gt500 or z06 can withstand it's might.

my cobalt with the airbox mod ran a 9.0 @ 168mph









































at the time of my amazing run at atco, i was on the bed of a tow truck that was being dragged behind a stock ls2 gto
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
the cobalt is the most undeniably fast car ever. not even a gt500 or z06 can withstand it's might.

my cobalt with the airbox mod ran a 9.0 @ 168mph









































at the time of my amazing run at atco, i was on the bed of a tow truck that was being dragged behind a stock ls2 gto
I haven't heard this story Spill it!
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Wow could the last few threads be the very reason?

Everyone has to be a wise ass when in reality there dumbasses.
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i'm not so sure that made sense..
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It makes a lot of sense.....

Your wiseass comments about GTO's just makes us want to join in on GTO vs XX thread.
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what are you talking about? it was your gto the pulled me + the tow truck down the track
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sounds about righ to me trap seems a little high sure he did not have a intake
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no. just driver mod stage 5
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chevysalesman614
what are you talking about? it was your gto the pulled me + the tow truck down the track
My bad, read that wrong..was thinking you were saying your car broke down at the track.
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