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Old 01-28-2013 | 02:27 PM
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Wide Wheels Up Front - Ad/Disadvantages

Anyone running a 9"+ wide tire up front with a ~15-30 offset notice anything negative that you would say to stop me from running it? I was hoping to run 9.75s on all 4 corners and kind of debated with myself the disadvantage of having such wide front wheels. I know that a big disadvantage is tire rotations by running staggered and you lose a good percentage of your turn radius by going wide, anything else?

Would rather not have to run a staggered fitment if I can get away with 9.75's all around but I have the option to run 8.25s and would rather not screw myself over and jump the gun buying something too wide that I'll regret.

How much of my turning radius might I lose if I tuck a decent amount of tire?


Plans for Summer

Coilovers: Stance GR+ or BC's, shortened springs, tucking a bit of tire.
Wheel: XXR 527/530
Size: 17x9.75 et +25
Tire: 215/35/17
Fenders: Rolled and pulled
Camber: Front: -1.5ish for a little angle, Rear: however much I can get to minimize rubbing by shimming. lol

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Old 01-28-2013 | 02:59 PM
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I don't see there being a problem. Proper offset for the wide. And stretched
tires.

Just have to drive side ways a lot more after its setup haha
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Run at least -2.4 in the front or more if needed. Or try the -1.5
To see how jew like it
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Originally Posted by DSmastery
I don't see there being a problem. Proper offset for the wide. And stretched
tires.

Just have to drive side ways a lot more after its setup haha
What do you mean drive sideways? haha


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Run at least -2.4 in the front or more if needed. Or try the -1.5
To see how jew like it

Alright, I'll keep it in mind! I don't like oni-camber, just a very small amount to add some flavor so I'll see what it looks like and how it feels with both.

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If your not already low u probably don't go sideways
to enter driveways and stuff

-2.4 isn't that aggressive, I'm running -2.4/-2.8 fronts

But you will be deciding when the time comes
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Originally Posted by DSmastery
If your not already low u probably don't go sideways
to enter driveways and stuff

-2.4 isn't that aggressive, I'm running -2.4/-2.8 fronts

But you will be deciding when the time comes
Oh you meant to enter driveways and stuff, haha. I'm golden, my driveway is flush and I'll just carry a few 2x4s for speed bumps and other obstacles, although I know where all the speed bumps are in my town so I don't think I'll have to deal with that much thankfully.

I've seen some people with like -3 degrees and their car looks ridiculously angled, yet some who have near 3 aren't quite as aggressive looking. Maybe I've been misreading everything I've seen about other's camber. lol

How wide are your wheels? I've seen it around here before but I can't remember.

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There are 8wide so nothing special. I'll be looking into 18x 9.5 in a few months.

Since your gonna run 9.75 camber will play a major factor in how you want it to sit
Need clearance from strut and fender, getting them pulled is good. Glad its on the list
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Originally Posted by DSmastery
There are 8wide so nothing special. I'll be looking into 18x 9.5 in a few months.

Since your gonna run 9.75 camber will play a major factor in how you want it to sit
Need clearance from strut and fender, getting them pulled is good. Glad its on the list
Definitely, have seen too many people talk about shredding tires having them pulled that I wouldn't want to mess with it not pulled. Have to look into shimming more and the disadvantage of that too.. Could pull off -3.5 all around? lol

Anything on the loss of turning radius?
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Could rub on full lock possibly. A few guys not even lowered said they
were running some camber -3degree area too
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Originally Posted by DSmastery
Could rub on full lock possibly. A few guys not even lowered said they
were running some camber -3degree area too
As long as I have like 70% of my ability to turn I'm satisfied and fully willing to sacrifice my 4x4 status for it. I drive pretty slow, don't think I'll be making any 180's anytime soon on a dime or in a rush for anything in my XFE.
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sometimes i miss being able to turn all the way lol
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You kids and your "stance" lol
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Originally Posted by RandyO
You kids and your "stance" lol
GTFO Randy, you're not low.
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im offroad stance haha
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Anything stance-wise, Randy is the man for help. He's helped me a lot in the last little while with my new rim setup.
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randy doesnt know anything about being low
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Originally Posted by Fitz88
randy doesnt know anything about being low
Haha.
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I hate all of you. Minus Joe. Dicks. hahah
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Originally Posted by Synergy1415P3
Anything stance-wise, Randy is the man for help. He's helped me a lot in the last little while with my new rim setup.
Randy's been helping me out. I was like wtf is rake?
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I hate all of you. Minus Joe. Dicks. hahah
Woo
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whys joe so special?
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Originally Posted by Fitz88
whys joe so special?
I think Randy has a crush on him.


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Originally Posted by Fitz88
sometimes i miss being able to turn all the way lol
I miss being not needing 4 lanes to make a u turn.



PS. I'm stock ride height, stock wheels, stock tire size.



As far as I know, there is NO disadvantage performance wise to getting wider wheels and tires. Except maybe weight.
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Originally Posted by TommyP
I miss being not needing 4 lanes to make a u turn.



PS. I'm stock ride height, stock wheels, stock tire size.



As far as I know, there is NO disadvantage performance wise to getting wider wheels and tires. Except maybe weight.
I'm not as much concerned with performance as I am with the drive-ability aspect of it. I have an XFE so I can't go fast as it is! lol Any chance you might know how much of my turning radius I would lose due to rubbing at 3/4 turn or full lock? I'm expecting to rub on full lock but if I'm going to rub at 50% of my turn I'm going to walk the other way.



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