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Old 05-26-2014 | 01:15 PM
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^ LMAO this is so true
Old 05-26-2014 | 01:16 PM
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I do a lot of highway driving so I'd like the extra topend. I have no brains so I know I'll need a new trans. I have a F35 core with a LSD so I can get a 4.05 no LSD save some cash then decide what I want to do.
Old 05-26-2014 | 01:27 PM
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We are getting closer. It's still a few months out, but actually moving forward now.
Matt are you machining out the current ZFR housing or building a new one? If you're building a nee one what A/R are you guys thinking of?
Old 05-26-2014 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by r3v07ut10n
^ LMAO this is so true
Glad someone else agrees. Haha.

Originally Posted by KMO43
I do a lot of highway driving so I'd like the extra topend. I have no brains so I know I'll need a new trans. I have a F35 core with a LSD so I can get a 4.05 no LSD save some cash then decide what I want to do.
I have brains to drive it but I still broke my trans. Little downshift to third and the gas was enough to shatter real quick. If it happens, it happens. You'll regret not getting the LSD. My buddy's sc didn't have an LSD and it sucked with traction completely. Mine with LSD and k04 was good, but now with the zfr and 4.45 trans it definitely helps but not as much it should. Just need some decent meats now though.
Old 05-26-2014 | 01:54 PM
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No in my car I have one and I have a core with an LSD so I can buy a non LSD save some money rebuild it with the one I already have.
Old 05-26-2014 | 02:12 PM
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smart thinking KMO43. Wert, how do you like the gas mileage difference going from stock to 445 ? Its not as bad as i thought it to be personally.
Old 05-26-2014 | 02:18 PM
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If ZZP builds a new housing with a moderate A/R then the 7163 has the possibility of being easier on the trans like a 256et and I may be able to get away with the 4.05
Old 05-26-2014 | 02:37 PM
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No in my car I have one and I have a core with an LSD so I can buy a non LSD save some money rebuild it with the one I already have.
Ah I got ya.

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smart thinking KMO43. Wert, how do you like the gas mileage difference going from stock to 445 ? Its not as bad as i thought it to be personally.
I do like it but I do wish there was one more gear for those long trips. Went to Maryland 2 weeks ago and went 362 miles on roughly 11.2 gallons. Its basically 32 mpgs. Not bad at all for what it is and I occasionally did pulls here and there. Last year I went to Hershey and made it there with 36mpg and that was all straight highway and one or two pulls. Very impressed with it. Just sucks on highways with the high revving where as another gear would really help.

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If ZZP builds a new housing with a moderate A/R then the 7163 has the possibility of being easier on the trans like a 256et and I may be able to get away with the 4.05
Very true. It really all depends on what they release.
Old 05-26-2014 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KMO43
Matt are you machining out the current ZFR housing or building a new one? If you're building a nee one what A/R are you guys thinking of?
Same AR for now.
Old 05-26-2014 | 08:49 PM
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So it looks like theyre going with their first plan to machine their current housing. So matt its a .64 a/r?
Old 05-27-2014 | 11:09 AM
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So it looks like theyre going with their first plan to machine their current housing. So matt its a .64 a/r?
Yes.
Old 05-27-2014 | 12:54 PM
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It depends on how fast it spools. It's can't possibly hit peak torque as fast as the 6758 does
which is fine imo, that way the boost ramp wont be as aggressive...well shouldnt be.

S/n I am more intrigued in this

Hey Matt how is the fittment looking so far? Are we bending firewalls??

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Old 05-27-2014 | 01:20 PM
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The 6758 EFR flows 53lbs/min and the 7163efr flows 60lbs/min I can't wait for this
Never seen even close to 53lbs/min on a 6758 EFR even on Wert's car at 28 psi.
Old 05-27-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Never seen even close to 53lbs/min on a 6758 EFR even on Wert's car at 28 psi.
I bet ZZP hit it when they did the original ZFR testing when they hit 540hp
Old 05-27-2014 | 03:45 PM
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I bet ZZP hit it when they did the original ZFR testing when they hit 540hp
If the pushed it close to 40 psi maybe. I still take their dyno results with a grain of salt because 540 whp on a mustang dyno is impossible for anyone else to duplicate with a ZFR.
Old 05-27-2014 | 03:50 PM
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If the pushed it close to 40 psi maybe. I still take their dyno results with a grain of salt because 540 whp on a mustang dyno is impossible for anyone else to duplicate with a ZFR.
I think the 7163 can make 540hp but yea really tough for the 6758 to do that
Old 05-27-2014 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KMO43
I think the 7163 can make 540hp but yea really tough for the 6758 to do that
Yes I should have clarified the 6758.
Old 05-27-2014 | 04:01 PM
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I knew what you were talking about the 6758. Most people are around 450hp with the 6758 so I'm guessing the 7163 will be around 500-550hp
Old 05-28-2014 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KMO43
I knew what you were talking about the 6758. Most people are around 450hp with the 6758 so I'm guessing the 7163 will be around 500-550hp
Most with a 6758 are around 400. Not a lot break 400 unless on E or other methods. Some from time to time do though, but 450 is a different story. Not a lot come close unless drastic measures are taken. (E, fifth injector set up, cam, and what not)
Old 05-29-2014 | 07:32 PM
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I'm running meth but right now I'm only looking to get around 475hp. I'm hoping since the 7163 is bigger it'll be nicer on the trans. I heard that the 7163 is a really smooth turbo
Old 05-30-2014 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Never seen even close to 53lbs/min on a 6758 EFR even on Wert's car at 28 psi.
I wanna say the most I saw with area was 49lbs
Old 05-30-2014 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by taintedred07
I wanna say the most I saw with area was 49lbs
That's pretty close to max flow prob only ZZP has maxed it out so far
Old 05-30-2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wert842
Most with a 6758 are around 400. Not a lot break 400 unless on E or other methods. Some from time to time do though, but 450 is a different story. Not a lot come close unless drastic measures are taken. (E, fifth injector set up, cam, and what not)
I think me meant 450 crank hp.
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Originally Posted by taintedred07
I wanna say the most I saw with area was 49lbs
Wert's car sees 45 lbs/min max but his DA is around 2000-3000ft. This would be around 50 lbs/min at sea level.
Old 05-30-2014 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminator2
Wert's car sees 45 lbs/min max but his DA is around 2000-3000ft. This would be around 50 lbs/min at sea level.
So sounds like it is almost maxed think you can get that 20-30 extra hp with the meth?



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