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Old 09-13-2007, 09:52 AM
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I just did a custom 3" catless setup on my car from manifold back using a Vibrant muffler. Yes its very loud, but im actually getting ready to take my exhaust back down and put in a vibrant super quiet resignator. As for issues u'll get cell codes going catless, but as for power, I notice alot of differance from 1st to 3rd but 4th and 5th pull about the same. If you have HPTuners and r not afraid of gettting a ticket for noise violations, or a ticket for not having a cat. Then go Catless otherwise hi flows. That simple!
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People saying don't get a cat just because you don't have emissions testing need to wake up. Without a cat your putting out over 100 times as much polution, with a large chunk of what your putting out being extremely toxic. If he is only going with a 2.5" catback, he could easily get a hiflow cat that flows more then 500cfm (~ what a 2.5" flows).
Old 09-13-2007, 10:05 AM
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Go w/ the cat, it won't hurt you at all...
Old 09-13-2007, 10:26 AM
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[QUOTE=InfinityzeN;1445077]People saying don't get a cat just because you don't have emissions testing need to wake up. Without a cat your putting out over 100 times as much polution, with a large chunk of what your putting out being extremely toxic. If he is only going with a 2.5" catback, he could easily get a hiflow cat that flows more then 500cfm (~ what a 2.5" flows).[/QUOTE


for his application sure but if your going for a little more performance oriented then catless
Old 09-13-2007, 10:32 AM
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Ok so what happens if I just happened to have....I dont know....WOT before 250 miles, about 100 times?
Old 09-14-2007, 01:49 AM
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More than likely you posioned the cat.
Old 09-14-2007, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by lsjwannabe
nope depends on what you want
I would want a balanced 4cylinder not one with two cylinders restricted and the other two free flowing. that is why it makes no sense to run two cylinders on a cat and the other two not on a cat. as well 2 cylinders meet emmissions and the other two dont. if you cant see that well happy tuning. you have a cool setup.
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Originally Posted by Asphalt Assault
I would want a balanced 4cylinder not one with two cylinders restricted and the other two free flowing. that is why it makes no sense to run two cylinders on a cat and the other two not on a cat. as well 2 cylinders meet emmissions and the other two dont. if you cant see that well happy tuning. you have a cool setup.
he actually has 2 diff dp that he interchanges as he needs, but im sure it stays catless 90% of the year
Old 12-18-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Asphalt Assault
I would want a balanced 4cylinder not one with two cylinders restricted and the other two free flowing. that is why it makes no sense to run two cylinders on a cat and the other two not on a cat. as well 2 cylinders meet emmissions and the other two dont. if you cant see that well happy tuning. you have a cool setup.

WTF did you just say?
Old 12-18-2007, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by REIGN SS
Im thinking of ordering the ZZP header/dp combo, should i go with Cat or No Cat. Will i see a major difference from one to the other?\

Also should I do 2.5 downpipe bolt on or the 3" DP with 2.5" exit?

Im going to get the Monza 2.5 catback with the combo



UHM I HEARD U LOOSE POWER AND TORQUE IF U GET WITHOUT THE CAT
BUT DO WHAT U WANT
Old 12-18-2007, 06:30 PM
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lose power and torque with catless?!?!?!

where in the world did you hear that bs?
Old 12-18-2007, 06:50 PM
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www.catlessmakesyoulosepower.com

ive been on the site and it is total BS
Old 12-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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well that would mean adding a cat adds power right....


hot damn. im gonna add 3!
Old 12-18-2007, 07:14 PM
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rice or not rice..
Old 12-18-2007, 07:16 PM
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i wouldn't ever go without a cat on a car that is supposed to have one.

Originally Posted by an0malous
lose power and torque with catless?!?!?!

where in the world did you hear that bs?
the "tests" that were done involved taking the cat off of a car that otherwise had on. so, yeah, the car would freak out and lose power.

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Old 12-18-2007, 07:17 PM
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all the tests showed an increase.....

guys....seriously....think about what your saying

we spend all this time and money removing restrictions from exhausts.....

and somehow this giant fatass restriction right in the exhaust flow, is gonna ADD power.......

HELLOOOOOOOO
Old 12-18-2007, 11:35 PM
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the only way a cat would ever result in a loss of power is if it induced a CEL on a car that has a failsafe mode that kicks in when the CEL is on. Our cars DO NOT have a fail safe mode that cuts fuel and in turn, power, when the CEL is on.
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Originally Posted by an0malous
all the tests showed an increase.....

guys....seriously....think about what your saying

we spend all this time and money removing restrictions from exhausts.....

and somehow this giant fatass restriction right in the exhaust flow, is gonna ADD power.......

HELLOOOOOOOO
duh!

I should just put a cat on my intake so i can get an extra 5 whp
Old 12-19-2007, 01:34 PM
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you mean you guys arent running a cat for each cyl? cmon.. I am in the 11's with this...
I have never heard of anyone removing a cat and losing performance.
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