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Old 10-19-2010 | 06:38 PM
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downpipe question

i just got my 2.5 catless downpipe...i paid for a 02 bung for my wideband...how many bungs should i have on the downpipe??
Old 10-19-2010 | 10:13 PM
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anybody???
Old 10-20-2010 | 03:05 PM
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Old 10-20-2010 | 03:08 PM
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i thought there was 2 byngs needed cause isnt there a stock sensor in the downpipe
Old 10-20-2010 | 03:14 PM
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thats what i thought...so now i need to get annother one welded in for the wideband???
Old 10-20-2010 | 04:20 PM
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yeah i would assume so
Old 10-20-2010 | 04:35 PM
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i guess im a little confused...its says add a bung for a wideband but should it already come with one for the stock o2???
Old 10-20-2010 | 06:33 PM
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yes i beleive so.
it should come with one and then you pay extra for another bung.
Old 10-20-2010 | 06:57 PM
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while were on this topic, what exactly is a wideband?
ive seen it on here a few times. idk what it is.
Old 10-20-2010 | 06:58 PM
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If you orederd extra bung for wideband then you should have TWO bungs... I bought one from ZZP before and it only had one bung and I returned it...
Old 10-20-2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbalt2010
while were on this topic, what exactly is a wideband?
ive seen it on here a few times. idk what it is.
To show the air to fuel ratios... Its good to have and especially when tuning
Old 10-20-2010 | 06:59 PM
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If you orederd extra bung for wideband then you should have TWO bungs... I bought one from ZZP before and it only had one bung and I returned it...


thats how i thought it was going to be like...


i am not bashing or anything like that...i was just trying to make sure...
Old 10-20-2010 | 07:01 PM
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To show the air to fuel ratios... Its good to have and especially when tuning
ok now how do you red the air to fual mixtures? its a plug you plug in or something?
sorry for being such a noob.
explain please haha
Old 10-20-2010 | 07:11 PM
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Its digital and its plug and play... When idling and cruising you should see 14-14.8 ratio... When WOT( slamming on the gas) it reads aroumd 11.8 ratio... If its off by alot then tunning is
Critical so you won't blow anything... Basically it reads if the afr's are lean or rich
Old 10-20-2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbalt2010
ok now how do you red the air to fual mixtures? its a plug you plug in or something?
sorry for being such a noob.
explain please haha
na, good question, I'm looking at gettin this MPx catless dp, but I didn't know bout this extra stuff...
Would someone care to educate the noobs??
Old 10-20-2010 | 07:32 PM
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lol damn noobs haha.

so this badboy plugs into the extra bung and im assuming is routed to the inside of the car so you can keep track of the mixtures.
where do you have your wideband routed?
got pics?
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If you order a unit with a cat, it comes with one bung. if you order a catless pipe it has no bung.

If you order a wideband bung, we add an additional one. If you wanted yet another, it would be $10 more.
Old 10-20-2010 | 10:26 PM
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oh ok...if i would of know that i would of ordered 2 then...
Old 10-20-2010 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Zooomer
If you order a unit with a cat, it comes with one bung. if you order a catless pipe it has no bung.

If you order a wideband bung, we add an additional one. If you wanted yet another, it would be $10 more.
i ordered one from you guys a year or so ago...is the downpipe with the Cat an '"offroad" one just like the catless?
Old 10-21-2010 | 03:59 AM
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that seems very misleading so then i need to get another bung welded in for my stock o2 sensor that doesnt seem right should you not include the 02 sesor stock plus the extra you pay for
Old 10-21-2010 | 07:24 AM
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You shouldn't need the bung for the rear o2 if your catless.

ZZP is saying the base price for a catless doesn't include a bung at all, the extra you pay is for a bung toward the front of the dp. If they added a mandatory o2 bung for the rear o2 on the catless pipe, they would probably have to raise the base price for the catless DP a bit for the parts and labor to install that bung.

If I remember correctly there descriptions for there LSJ DPs were a little confusing on there site, I could see how some think it is misleading.

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Old 10-21-2010 | 08:24 AM
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why dont i need it??? where does it go then???
Old 10-21-2010 | 08:33 AM
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Hmmmmm my ZZP 3" catless DP
came with a bung for the oe o2,
and a bung for the wideband as requested.
Old 10-21-2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CarsonTech
You shouldn't need the bung for the rear o2 if your catless.

ZZP is saying the base price for a catless doesn't include a bung at all, the extra you pay is for a bung toward the front of the dp. If they added a mandatory o2 bung for the rear o2 on the catless pipe, they would probably have to raise the base price for the catless DP a bit for the parts and labor to install that bung.

If I remember correctly there descriptions for there LSJ DPs were a little confusing on there site, I could see how some think it is misleading.
Your 100% wrong
Old 10-21-2010 | 03:07 PM
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well i guess i will have to see when i get mine in if it has all the right bungs



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