based on what? what is so MUCH better about it?

 

based on the fact he likes OTTP more than ZZP

 

seems so...

welds look top notch.. it uses interlocking flex pipe, and spun metal cat.. all things ottps uses.. not to mention also has an extended o2 chamber so it wont throw codes

 

The header looks fantastic. Good job ZZP.

To the people wondering about the difference between this and the over the top header, the length is quite the difference, but this feature also chalks one up to OTT's header.



But since I mod on a budget, I would seriously consider the ZZP part if I was in the market for a header since it's more affordable.

It's not about buying the best or most expensive parts, it's about combining the parts you can afford properly to make an effective setup which makes you happy.

 

Collector looks like garbage. OTTP has them on that. But considering ZZP actually ships out their parts and you can actually get into contact with them, ZZP wins.

 

Pretty much my conclusion too! I like receptive vendors. ZZP's customer service is great.

 

looks great. can't wait to see if they got this thing on their black friday sale. would pick one up asap

 

OTT made the primaries the wrong length for a supercharged LSJ. We found their design to be less than optimal. It seems that they just made them as long as possible and hoped that it would work.

 

I was going to say, even though ZZP's collector doesn't look as good, I wouldn't rule it out as not performing just as good if not better.

ZZP is known to do their homework before just making something.

 

exactly.. while yes the collector might not be as night.. let us not forget that zzp actually dynoed it on a car prior to putting it out lol

we've still yet to see any dyno numbers from the ottp one.. does that mean the zzp one is better? no but at least we know the zzp works well lol

 

Creditable dynos from either ZZP or OTTP = non existant!!

C'mon nutswingers!

 

based on pics.... look at the craftsmanship on this then otts...




and im not on either persons side... zzp has some good ****... ott has some good ****

 

The problem with OTT is that they don't actually have much of anything. They have to source this type of product elsewhere and it gets marked up twice. If they try to compete with our pricing, then there is no way that they can afford to offer any type of reasonable customer service. If they negotiate a better price from their suppliers, then they receive less service in return and lead times/availability suffers. They also don't have the luxury of test fitting on the spot during fabrication, dyno testing, and track testing on a regular basis. Without question, ZZP is set up to lead the way in Cobalt performance.

 

With that said
Any word on fitment for us automatic guys?

 

Yeah, I had to cancel.. Broad-sided FTL.

Even so, they had my money for nearly three (3) weeks and I never heard a word.. Just that they had to get the piping or something. So I completely agree with your decision, in-fact even with my SS, I won't even waste my time with OTTP.

I have had no problem with ZZP thus far at all with anything on my new SS.

I'm hopping on that train too.. I agree.

 

Well, I've had mine on for a couple of weeks now. It sounds excellent mated to my Thermal Catback, and I've yet to find anyone that thought my previous setup sounded better (cobalt addiction V1 and a ZZP catted(gutted) DP and the Thermal). It is however much louder, which I expected.

I have only 2 minor complaints. I ordered mine with the second o2 bung, and with my wideband installed, the end of the sensor rests on the inside of the exhaust tunnel. Secondly, it seems this setup is a tad bit longer than my zzp dp stock/CAV1 header combo. The exhaust tip noticeably sticks out more, and the flanges that mate the catback to the axle back hits the rear suspension and makes a lot of racket. Otherwise it's ben great.

 

Interesting. Never heard a thermal cat-back clip before. I can only image how this is going to sound with my Megan.. I'm probably going to get a new cat back or one of those turbo mufflers, I think someone said they're quieter. Wonder how mine will fit (auto).. We shall see

 

Hopefully those issues get addressed, but its why I never by things when they first come out. Cars,car parts etc

 

Just installed mine on '08 LS with 2.2 Fit in just fine, no interference, no issues with it being longer than my stock setup, didnt have to adjust the position of my exhaust at all. Easiest header Ive ever installed honestly. Only issue is due to my car being an L61, uses different O2 sensors than an LSJ so I had to lightly modify the extension harness. Other than that it was cake.

 

I will be getting mine in thursday,cant't wait

 

i get mine wed along with my 2.6, griffin, and interceptor

 

Sounds good so far. Still looking for numbers

 

i want wun....

 

how do you know when your header is being shipped out? cuz i haven't gotten anything from zzp about mine being shipped. it just says in process.

 

https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/5401358-post876.html

I checked my account / email. They probably had to make more of them after that sale hahaha.