Originally Posted by Zooomer

Very true but it's the only way that customers understand things. If we started talking about vehicle weight, torque, traction, etc things would get confusing. The only real way to test is to do a torque to failure test with load readings are various degrees of twist. ZZP has and often does this type of testing but we are mocked for being smart on CSS.net so it's easier to keep the explanations simple and avoid people posting FTL and "my axles 'feel' stronger', etc. It's frustrating. Here's an example of the testing we do to determine this type of strength:

You generally won't see other companies doing this type of testing. It's much easier to make up false HP numbers or give colorful descriptions that really don't give any real information. I hope that when we start racing and as time goes on, people begin to appreciate the scientific methods.


We added these to the site yesterday, how would they know what we're selling?

There is much I'd love to say about a lot of products used on these boards but hostile customers, moderators, and other vendors have forced me silent, so much information cannot be shared. On the axles, OTT says they aren't the same, I say they are. Order them both if you are curious and post your results. I'll give you 110% of your money back if you return ours.

Originally Posted by Darkmanx

Zoomer you say these are the same as ott ones but they say it's not

Originally Posted by Zooomer

As of my post someone lowered their price from 399/set to 225/set. Clearly you need to be careful making assumptions when buying mods and competition nearly always helps the consumer.

Originally Posted by Zooomer

As of my post someone lowered their price from 399/set to 225/set. Clearly you need to be careful making assumptions when buying mods and competition nearly always helps the consumer.